WFT's Off-Season Thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Then he plays under the FT and that's the end. Draft his potential replacement and move on next year.

Thuney is the better player, and more durable. He hasn't missed a game in five years, with 7.5 sacks allowed in those 5 years.

Scherff is damn good, but his availability issues alone are enough for him not to warrant a contract that one up's Thuney's.

Doesn't matter who's better just matters who's time it is to get paid and reset the market. Scherff coming off an all pro season has more leverage than ever.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Doesn't matter who's better just matters who's time it is to get paid and reset the market. Scherff coming off an all pro season has more leverage than ever.

I disagree with that. It matters a whole lot who is better, and injury history plays a role.

If that was the rule, Dak would have exceeded Mahomes in guarantees and average salary, because it was his turn. He didn't.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I disagree with that. It matters a whole lot who is better, and injury history plays a role.

If that was the rule, Dak would have exceeded Mahomes in guarantees and average salary, because it was his turn. He didn't.

Dak Prescott's contract makes Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes' deal look like a bargain

Which deal would you rather have as a player?

Prescott is reportedly set to make anywhere from $140-160 million total over the course of four years. He has a record-breaking $126 million in guaranteed money attached to his deal, with a $66 million signing bonus upfront. Mahomes’ contract, on the other hand, contained $141 million in total guaranteed money, but only $73 million in upfront guarantees. The big difference here is in the years.

All-in-all, Prescott will make nearly $30 million more than Mahomes over the course of the next four seasons. Then he’ll become a free agent and pursuing a new contract at just 31 years old. That new contract, if things go right for Prescott, would presumably be larger than the last.

At that time, Mahomes will still have seven years left on his contract with the Chiefs. The salary cap will also be much higher than it currently is right now. Consider the other quarterback contracts handed out between now and then, and Mahomes’ monster deal could very well look like a steal.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Dak Prescott's contract makes Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes' deal look like a bargain

Which deal would you rather have as a player?

So Dak's contract has a "record-breaking" 126 million in guarantees, but Mahomes already had a contract with 141 million in guarantees. How is Dak's 126 million in guarantees "record-breaking"?

I guess if you are saying Dak got the better deal because he will be up for another deal sooner than Mahomes, then I would agree. However, it wasn't a better deal in terms of guarantees and average salary for the course of the deals they signed.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

So Dak's contract has a "record-breaking" 126 million in guarantees, but Mahomes already had a contract with 141 million in guarantees. How is Dak's 126 million in guarantees "record-breaking"?

I guess if you are saying Dak got the better deal because he will be up for another deal sooner than Mahomes, then I would agree. However, it wasn't a better deal in terms of guarantees and average salary for the course of the deals they signed.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-c...mahomes-21751/

Mahomes contract is complicated. I dont think I understand it.

63M guaranteed at signing .. but a 141M total possibly guaranteed .. ton of guaranteed money is tied to roster bonuses (39M roster bonus per year) but if the Chiefs cut him, he wont get the roster bonus

Feels like the Chiefs could cut Mahomes with little to no dead money in 2026.
------------------

Dak's $ is truly guaranteed, guaranteed at signing with no strings attached.

Mahomes "technically" needs to be on roster to get his guaranteed roster bonuses.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

So Dak's contract has a "record-breaking" 126 million in guarantees, but Mahomes already had a contract with 141 million in guarantees. How is Dak's 126 million in guarantees "record-breaking"?

I guess if you are saying Dak got the better deal because he will be up for another deal sooner than Mahomes, then I would agree. However, it wasn't a better deal in terms of guarantees and average salary for the course of the deals they signed.

I don't know about the guaranteed part. All I know from everything I've read is that Dak's is the more favorable deal.

Here's another good breakdown

Dak Prescott awarded record-setting deal: Contract breakdown, cap impact and Cowboys free agency outlook

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I disagree with that. It matters a whole lot who is better, and injury history plays a role.

If that was the rule, Dak would have exceeded Mahomes in guarantees and average salary, because it was his turn. He didn't.

Mahomes' contract is a major outlier here, and even as ridiculous as the numbers are, here is a good comparison between Mahomes' and Dak's contract:

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021...ct-comparison/

The value of Mahomes' contract, on a per year basis, will eventually be surpassed by Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, and/or Kyler Murray. Also, in the same length of Mahomes' contract, these young QBs will likely get a second FA contract giving them more guaranteed money than Mahomes.