Portis Overrated?

[Anthony Chance]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I base my assessment of running backs on yards and yards per carry. Period. I pretty much judge QBs on winning, TDs and yards. Of those I would say that Portis qualifies as a very good back and Brunell is only a mediocre QB.

I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.

you left out a huge problem and probably the biggest, too many 3 and out on offense , that mostly falls on gibbs and brunell . it also leads to a lot of the struggles on defense , the offense needs to be able to put together some drives so that the defense can catch thier breath.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.

I would take a ton of QBs over Mark Brunell right now. I would agree that there have been break downs in other areas of the game, but he hasn't done much to make up for those shortcomings and that's the problem that I have with him. He never seems to play with any kind of urgency, outside of the Dallas game.

[Anthony Chance]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I would take a ton of QBs over Mark Brunell right now. I would agree that there have been break downs in other areas of the game, but he hasn't done much to make up for those shortcomings and that's the problem that I have with him. He never seems to play with any kind of urgency, outside of the Dallas game.

You don't know greatness when it's staring you in the face.

How many QBs have only five interceptions at this point in the season.
Even "No Mistake" Jake has thrown more picks.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

You don't know greatness when it's staring you in the face.

How many QBs have only five interceptions at this point in the season.
Even "No Mistake" Jake has thrown more picks.

how many scoring drives has he led his team to compared to how many brunell has ?

[Anthony Chance]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

how many scoring drives has he led his team to compared to how many brunell has ?

Brunell has actually thrown more TDs than Plummer and Plummer has a 1 game advantage. Don't forget that Brunell was not our original starter in week 1.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

Brunell has actually thrown more TDs than Plummer and Plummer has a 1 game advantage. Don't forget that Brunell was not our original starter in week 1.

scoring drives, not just tds. i thought field goals were scores. more importantly which qb has the LEAST amount of 3 and outs, because that is the real problem with the skins offense.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

Brunell has actually thrown more TDs than Plummer and Plummer has a 1 game advantage. Don't forget that Brunell was not our original starter in week 1.

Your stat, INT percentage, which is apparently the one that makes Brunell great is rather revealing. Kerry Collins is tied with Peyton Manning and Matt Hasselbeck, are you saying that he's just as good as them?

[Anthony Chance]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Your stat, INT percentage, which is apparently the one that makes Brunell great is rather revealing. Kerry Collins is tied with Peyton Manning and Matt Hasselbeck, are you saying that he's just as good as them?

Kerry Collins, HA HA. However Peyton calls his own plays, I would like to see how he does in a Joe Gibbs outdated offense.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

You don't know greatness when it's staring you in the face.

How many QBs have only five interceptions at this point in the season.
Even "No Mistake" Jake has thrown more picks.

So the only stat you base a QBs greatness on is interceptions?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.

you guys must not watch the games. instead you must just look at the numbers in the paper the next day. Portis has saved Brunell's ass SO many times...

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by illdefined

you guys must not watch the games. instead you must just look at the numbers in the paper the next day. Portis has saved Brunell's ass SO many times...

Is picking up a blitz more important than yards?

I acknowledge there are plenty of things that don't show up on the stat sheet that are very important. However, Portis won't go to the Hall of Fame for picking up the blitz.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by illdefined

you guys must not watch the games. instead you must just look at the numbers in the paper the next day. Portis has saved Brunell's ass SO many times...

who are you talking to when you say "you guys" ? because you just said exactly what everyone has been trying to tell ANTHONY CHANCE ever since he started this thread by calling portis overrated.:frusty: