Why Did Ramsey Really Go to the Jets?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by offiss

Everyone did before Gibbs arrived, and that includes almost everyone on this site at the time, that's why Miami was offering a high draft pick the season before, it was a brillant job by Gibbs to burn this kid down and get nothing for him.

Kind of funny no one had Bree's as a starting QB a couple of seasons ago, I do believe the Chargers drafted one Phillip Rivers to replace him with the intention of releasing him until Rivers held out, how did that pan out?

Bottom line your right I am no GM, and neither is Gibbs, why else would you give up a second rd pick for a QB who was about to be released and would have never sniffed a 43 million dollar contract? How about all these late round gems we heard about last year? Im still waiting to see just one. Now we are hearing the same thing again Gibbs talking about finding that late round gem, for some reason I believe he thinks that because Bobby Beathard was a genious at those type of picks so is he, well I am still waiting to see it!

Gibbs IMO has proved nothing about talent evaluation, Cooley is the 1 player I give him props for, the rest were simple top 10 picks that anyone could have made. Free agent signings? If you can't evaluate a current established, NFL starter than get out of the talent evaluation buisness. The signing of established talent at the rate we do is a big sign that we have no confidence in our ability to evaluate talent coming out of college. Lets see how we pan out this draft, I do hope we get it right.

I'm not going to get into a debate about Gibbs' teambuilding methods and skills. The point of this thread was to examine why Ramsey ended up with the Jets. Quite simply put, everyone IN FOOTBALL now realizes he's nothing special at this point. He could be good, he could be bad. But he's got a ton of question marks surrounding him.

If GMs thought that Gibbs was responsible for destroying Ramsey's value over the last year, then logically they'd see something in him that leads them to believe he can be a great QB in this league if given a change of scenery and circumstance. Bottom line is nobody felt that way about him, and that's why he only garnered a 6th round pick.

I'm never going to understand why people think Ramsey is destined to be a top 10 QB in this league someday. When there are talents out there like Eli Manning, Peyton, Brady, Brees, Brad Johnson, McNabb, Culpepper, Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, Delhomme, and Hasselbeck, I just don't understand what people see in Patrick Ramsey that makes them think he's going to one day join the ranks of those type QBs.

You're just wowed by arm strength, Offiss. He's one of the most innaccurate downfield passers I've ever seen. Ramsey is virtually incapable of hitting a receiver in stride on a deep route.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm never going to understand why people think Ramsey is destined to be a top 10 QB in this league someday. When there are talents out there like Eli Manning, Peyton, Brady, Brees, Brad Johnson, McNabb, Culpepper, Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, Delhomme, and Hasselbeck, I just don't understand what people see in Patrick Ramsey that makes them think he's going to one day join the ranks of those type QBs.

How could you say Brad Johnson, who will be 38 this year, is a top 10 QB. He's not a top 10 QB now, and he definitely won't be by the time Ramsey ever does (if he does)

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by steveo395

How could you say Brad Johnson, who will be 38 this year, is a top 10 QB. He's not a top 10 QB now, and he definitely won't be by the time Ramsey ever does (if he does)

Sorry, that wasn't my intention to say Johnson is necessarily a top 10 QB. I do think he's pretty good though. I was just making a point that with these QBs currently playing in the league, what in the world makes anyone think Ramsey will be as good as these guys are now?

I don't think Ramsey will ever be as good as Brad Johnson is right now.