Kobe Bryant Suspension

[GhettoDogAllStars]

I never thought Ginobili was a "dirty" player. I've never heard anyone say that before. He plays harder than almost anyone ... I guess that could be interpreted many different ways. Everyone thinks Bruce Bowen is dirty too -- I think he just plays incredible defense. Huh, I guess people aren't really used to that in the NBA.

As for Kobe, I think he's a great player. A little selfish, but great nonetheless. My problem with this incident is that Ginobili blocked the shot from BEHIND. How does Kobe manage to hit him with his forearm when Ginobili is BEHIND him? I can't really think of any possible way to do that incidentally.

I think the NBA made the correct judgment.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I never thought Ginobili was a "dirty" player. I've never heard anyone say that before. He plays harder than almost anyone ... I guess that could be interpreted many different ways. Everyone thinks Bruce Bowen is dirty too -- I think he just plays incredible defense. Huh, I guess people aren't really used to that in the NBA.

As for Kobe, I think he's a great player. A little selfish, but great nonetheless. My problem with this incident is that Ginobili blocked the shot from BEHIND. How does Kobe manage to hit him with his forearm when Ginobili is BEHIND him? I can't really think of any possible way to do that incidentally.

I think the NBA made the correct judgment.

He plays hard for sure and he is a good player but he is one of the biggest flopper's in basketball if not THE biggest. I have seen him against the Sonics quite a bit (both in-person and on tv) and the man is a flopping machine.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

He plays hard for sure and he is a good player but he is one of the biggest flopper's in basketball if not THE biggest. I have seen him against the Sonics quite a bit (both in-person and on tv) and the man is a flopping machine.

How does that make him dirty, rather than just being cheap?

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by saden1

He plays hard for sure and he is a good player but he is one of the biggest flopper's in basketball if not THE biggest. I have seen him against the Sonics quite a bit (both in-person and on tv) and the man is a flopping machine.

I agree. I hate that crap. Its almost as bad as soccer players.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by saden1

He plays hard for sure and he is a good player but he is one of the biggest flopper's in basketball if not THE biggest. I have seen him against the Sonics quite a bit (both in-person and on tv) and the man is a flopping machine.

there are plenty of floppers in basketball, everyone is trying to draw a charge, hell antonio daniels flops constantly for the wizards. guys like stockton specialized in it

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Big C

there are plenty of floppers in basketball, everyone is trying to draw a charge, hell antonio daniels flops constantly for the wizards. guys like stockton specialized in it

Exactly, the rules give way to the possibility of flopping and drawing fouls.

Also if you are gonna start getting upset over floppers what is next, is Reggie Miller a dirty player because he drew fouls by kicking out his legs when shooting???

[saden1]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Exactly, the rules give way to the possibility of flopping and drawing fouls.

Also if you are gonna start getting upset over floppers what is next, is Reggie Miller a dirty player because he drew fouls by kicking out his legs when shooting???

The word dirty isn't reserved for players that play rough. There's "trying to sell a call" and then there is flopping. There have been countless of times when Manu fell to the ground when he wasn't even touched. One play that sticks in my mind happened exactly like the Kobe incident. Video replay showed he wasn't even touched yet he hit the deck in agony. Yep, he is a dirty mofo.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by saden1

[In a separate incident] [v]ideo replay showed [Ginobili] wasn't even touched yet he hit the deck in agony.

I think I might remember seeing that. I'm definitely not a fan of that crap. Perhaps they should try to penalize that type of play? It's probably not practical though, because it would be totally subjective and difficult to enforce properly. Maybe they could just review the games, and then penalize the player afterwards -- instead of during the game?