Iran Supplying Weapons to Iraq?

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

You didn't think Clinton was a good Prez?

no, granted, he didn't actively mess things up like some would suggest Bush did, but I still wouldn't call him a good president. In my opinion he took credit for things that weren't entirely his doing. Trust me though, I'm not a Republican, although I would call myself conservative.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

no, granted, he didn't actively mess things up like some would suggest Bush did, but I still wouldn't call him a good president. In my opinion he took credit for things that weren't entirely his doing. Trust me though, I'm not a Republican, although I would call myself conservative.

Well, I don't think all successes or failures of any presidency are entirely on that president. However, there are some markers, if you will, that we can always point to and say what they did well or bad.

During Clinton's presidency, for instance, he inheirted a huge deficit, turned it into a surplus, and we're back to running a deficit now.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well, I don't think all successes or failures of any presidency are entirely on that president. However, there are some markers, if you will, that we can always point to and say what they did well or bad.

During Clinton's presidency, for instance, he inheirted a huge deficit, turned it into a surplus, and we're back to running a deficit now.

Yes he inherited a recovering econmoy on the cusp of a period of growth unseen before and watched as tax coffers exploded with money that allowed him to end up positive. Bush got a waning economy and decided to cut taxes as well and now we have war that costs a lot of money and less taxes both by natural occurence and tax cuts. I like tax cuts but they should be met with spending cuts also. I don't give either prez any credit for performance on economy as they have very little if any effect on it. It is one the greatest myths in this country in terms of politics. Our economy runs itself. MAYBE tax cuts help a tiny bit to spur growth but that is questionable. Clinton didn't do anything that could be considered effecting the economy. Not a knock on him but just an observation.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Yes he inherited a recovering econmoy on the cusp of a period of growth unseen before and watched as tax coffers exploded with money that allowed him to end up positive. Bush got a waning economy and decided to cut taxes as well and now we have war that costs a lot of money and less taxes both by natural occurence and tax cuts. I like tax cuts but they should be met with spending cuts also. I don't give either prez any credit for performance on economy as they have very little if any effect on it. It is one the greatest myths in this country in terms of politics. Our economy runs itself. MAYBE tax cuts help a tiny bit to spur growth but that is questionable. Clinton didn't do anything that could be considered effecting the economy. Not a knock on him but just an observation.

great point...many presidents try to take credit for the economy, when in reality it runs itself...and is cyclical

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well, I don't think all successes or failures of any presidency are entirely on that president. However, there are some markers, if you will, that we can always point to and say what they did well or bad.

During Clinton's presidency, for instance, he inheirted a huge deficit, turned it into a surplus, and we're back to running a deficit now.

Yes but congress passes the spending bills not the president but he was president at that time so credit does go to him. He was also president when 600 died from a heat wave in Chicago but unlike Bush and Katrina he never got any heat from the press for not doing anything.