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Old 04-09-2007, 06:00 PM   #1
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

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I agree with you on this one G, I believe we should cut Brunell as well, we have to move on and look to the future, why we hang onto a QB who we know can't get the job done in Brunell is beyond me. A backup is a guy who you hope has what it takes to become a starter and can possibly lead a team for a season if your starter goes down, we don't have that right now, it's time to cut the cord with these guys and press on!
I agree. It's time to turn the page on Brunell. Rattay would fit in well here and I would have Collins and Rattay battle for #2. It's makes no sense to hold on to Brunell at this point.
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I agree. It's time to turn the page on Brunell. Rattay would fit in well here and I would have Collins and Rattay battle for #2. It's makes no sense to hold on to Brunell at this point.
It also makes sense to have Collins here to help teach a younger guy the offense. Having 2 old backups who should both be gone next year doesn't seems smart.
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It also makes sense to have Collins here to help teach a younger guy the offense. Having 2 old backups who should both be gone next year doesn't seems smart.
Collins does not have any mileage on him since he has never played. So I'm not sure why he would be gone after next year. Unless he just can't play at all. But the coaches see him up close so they must see something in the guy. I like the move Carolina made. And also Atl. signing Harrington. We need a younger guy with some playing experience.
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

I don't see what would be so catastrophic about bringing in Rattay, providing he doesn't break the cap bank.

In fact, his on-the-field experience in regular season play compared to Todd Collins' time might make up for his lack of understanding of what is apparently The World's Most Sophisticated Offense.

I would also agree that the overall athletic advantages Rattay has over Collins might make it a wise move for the future. But then, that's exactly the kind of forsight the front office isn't really known for.
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

I'd prefer to get someone a bit younger than Rattay. Ideally, a rookie or 2nd year person that we could dump on the practice squad for a year then send to NFL Europe. Granted, that's what we're doing with Bramlet.
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I'd prefer to get someone a bit younger than Rattay. Ideally, a rookie or 2nd year person that we could dump on the practice squad for a year then send to NFL Europe. Granted, that's what we're doing with Bramlet.
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I'd prefer to get someone a bit younger than Rattay. Ideally, a rookie or 2nd year person that we could dump on the practice squad for a year then send to NFL Europe. Granted, that's what we're doing with Bramlet.
I am officially an anyone but Brunell, or Collins guy!
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I'd prefer to get someone a bit younger than Rattay. Ideally, a rookie or 2nd year person that we could dump on the practice squad for a year then send to NFL Europe. Granted, that's what we're doing with Bramlet.
Given that we can't sign Tim Rattay this year because of salary cap reasons, we'd have to address our future at backup QB next season.

I would suggest next year that we resign Todd Collins as the #2 and let Brunell walk into the sunset. My reasoning is mainly driven by the cap. Brunell's contract was recently restructured in such a way that we all know he's gone after this season; I'll donate one of my testicles to charity if he's not.

Nobody in the NFL, except Al Saunders, knows squat about Todd Collins. Nobody's going to bid him up. We'll get him for one year, vet minimum, or close to it. He knows the system well, in his limited action he's about 1:1 when it comes to INT/TD ratio, completes an adequate percentage of his passes, and he has familiarity with the team's personnel.

For the #3 spot, I'd go with Smootsmack's suggestion; bring along a young fella. Draft someone late in 2008 who can learn quickly and make solid decisions. Groom him for the #2 job.

I agree that it makes sense to get someone in here earlier if we can, so they can start learning. But the cap prohibits it in Rattay's case.
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Re: The Official Warpath Sign Tim Rattay and Cut Todd Collins Thread

Who knows, maybe Bramlet beats out Collins in the preseason. The odds are not in his favor to do so considering Collins' knowledge of the system & the fact that it's difficult to get pt even in the preseason games w/3 qbs, much less 4.
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I agree. It's time to turn the page on Brunell. Rattay would fit in well here and I would have Collins and Rattay battle for #2. It's makes no sense to hold on to Brunell at this point.
It makes a lot less sense, economically and talent wise, to hold on to Collins.
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