Great Playcalling, Joe

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Tough for me to blame the defense when the offense kept going 3 and out and giving them no rest.

Bingo. In my mind, the game-changing play was Clinton's fumble on 2nd down after the obviously tired defense had just forced a stop. That broke the defense's back and derailed any chance of the offense putting it together.

Everyone wants to pile on Joe for the playcalling, but let me ask a question: does anyone know where our receivers are? Seriously, other than ARE, I have not seen anybody really making huge catches this season. Santana seems like he's running at half speed with all the groin injuries. Cooley's been the invisible man other than last week's prayer in the corner of the endzone. Hell, I think Yoder has made as many big grabs as Cooley.

So playcalling? I don't know, Jason threw several deep balls on first down, late in the game that I felt were good calls. But our receivers were blanked by a pretty lousy secondary.

[BrunellMVP?]

So playcalling? I don't know, Jason threw several deep balls on first down, late in the game that I felt were good calls. But our receivers were blanked by a pretty lousy secondary.[/quote]

agreed with you that cooley seems to be surprisingly quiet...concerning

but as for play calling, i don't think people are taking issue with the calls late in the 4th quarter (When we were behind)- as much as they are annoyed with plays called in the previous drives...all game...

[WillH]

Originally Posted by mooby

2-1 is the only bright spot here. Although the way the entire team played today we could very well be looking at another 5-6 win season. I blame this loss more on the defense than the offense. We're up 17-3, it's on the defense to shut them down. Instead, we hand them 21 friggin points, and they shut our offense down. Granted, the playcalling was very conservative, and teams don't win by that, so i'm putting the blame on the entire team for this one.

Yeah so much for "bend but not break", but the D was on the field almost the entire second half. Some of the blame has gotta go to the Offense for not converting.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by mooby

2-1 is the only bright spot here. Although the way the entire team played today we could very well be looking at another 5-6 win season. I blame this loss more on the defense than the offense. We're up 17-3, it's on the defense to shut them down. Instead, we hand them 21 friggin points, and they shut our offense down. Granted, the playcalling was very conservative, and teams don't win by that, so i'm putting the blame on the entire team for this one.

With the amount of time the defense spent on the feild, and the playcalling of the offense, I think THAT speaks for itself....yeah the defense didnt play great in the second half...but when you're playing for 30 straight mintues, that is going to play a big factor into why you cant play solid defense....

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

With the amount of time the defense spent on the feild, and the playcalling of the offense, I think THAT speaks for itself....yeah the defense didnt play great in the second half...but when you're playing for 30 straight mintues, that is going to play a big factor into why you cant play solid defense....

Well, the defense had already racked up 6-7 minutes of time on the field in the third quarter before Campbell and co. even took the field. So if you look at it that way...

The defense played awful from there on out. The offense played awful from there on out. It's encouraging that we apparently got it turned around with 3 mins left, but if your team plays a shitty 27 mins of football, what can you do?

[GusFrerotte]

Well we better get a pass rush going gents for the Lions or they are going to beat us at home for the first time since 1967. To be a true winner we need to be hitting on all cylinders for 4 quarters of the game. It is almost like our coaching staff wants to make it a close game or even to lose it. Gibbs II is looking rather shaky right now. We need a convincing win against the Lions after the bye to get things going. IF we lose to the Lions at home for the first time since '67 we are screwed!!!!!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Well we better get a pass rush going gents for the Lions or they are going to beat us at home for the first time since 1967. To be a true winner we need to be hitting on all cylinders for 4 quarters of the game. It is almost like our coaching staff wants to make it a close game or even to lose it. Gibbs II is looking rather shaky right now. We need a convincing win against the Lions after the bye to get things going. IF we lose to the Lions at home for the first time since '67 we are screwed!!!!!!

The Lions are terrible.

We have to look better than we did today for sure, but their pass D is every bit as bad as what people thought the Giants were.

[gabe1984]

I really cannot believe this. This is almost exactly what happened last year. Last year the Giants had a rocky stary and needed a win, so we went and got our asses kicked by them. This year, the Giants are off to a rocky start and need a win, so we decide to just give them the game. I'm beginning to think the Skins enjoy losing. I haven't been this pissed off over a loss in a while, and I have to buy my friend dinner. Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory.

[Hogs17]

Giants came out second half with incresaed intensity and the skins didn't..by the time they realized that fact it was a little too late. You can't strive to be one of the better teams in the league and have two TOTALLY different half's...after all they are all professionals. Also...the divorce papers are in the mail.

[Daseal]

If you've been around the game so long, Gtripp. How come we hardly even attempted to throw the ball against the worst passing D in the NFL? The run game is important, but after the first two 3 and outs, time to mix it up.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Daseal

If you've been around the game so long, Gtripp. How come we hardly even attempted to throw the ball against the worst passing D in the NFL? The run game is important, but after the first two 3 and outs, time to mix it up.

EXACTLY.

Worst passing defense in the league. Why the fuck aren't we passing against them 2 out of 3 downs??? Terrible play calling. Period. I like how people will stick in and defend the playcalling whether it be Joe or Al. It just sucked. Predictable, conservative and it did not take advantage of the defense we were matched up against.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Daseal

If you've been around the game so long, Gtripp. How come we hardly even attempted to throw the ball against the worst passing D in the NFL? The run game is important, but after the first two 3 and outs, time to mix it up.

We did.

If you were watching (or had the internet), you could see that on the first two three and outs of the third quarter, they called four passes and two runs. Campbell looked horrible on those passes. Guess they figured at that point to commit to the running game. I have no problem with that.

The game had already been tied at that point, so I think there was a sense of urgency in the coaches. Did it work? Obviously not, but we ran the ball TWICE (for 11 yards) in the third quarter.

Conservative my ass.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We did.

If you were watching (or had the internet), you could see that on the first two three and outs of the third quarter, they called four passes and two runs. Campbell looked horrible on those passes. Guess they figured at that point to commit to the running game. I have no problem with that.

The game had already been tied at that point, so I think there was a sense of urgency in the coaches. Did it work? Obviously not, but we ran the ball TWICE (for 11 yards) in the third quarter.

Conservative my ass.

What bothers me is that we did not throw enough mid range stuff. 15-25 yards. JC is not good at that short dump off stuff right now. But he throws some lasers when it's in the mid range. But it looks like we were not taking enough chances with those type of passes. I want to see those passes on first down, not 3rd and long.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What bothers me is that we did not throw enough mid range stuff. 15-25 yards. JC is not good at that short dump off stuff right now. But he throws some lasers when it's in the mid range. But it looks like we were not taking enough chances with those type of passes. I want to see those passes on first down, not 3rd and long.

Well, we had receivers running the mid range routes, and in general enough time for Campbell to deliver the ball. Whatever the reason, I think Campbell is man enough to accept the blame for the miscommunications and use it to better himself. I thought he had a horrible half, but he's young and as long as he accepts responsibility for his failures, I see no reason to panic.

[stbabyy]

sellers shouldve had both those runs at the end hes a sure yard or two