What is our game plan for victory versus Chicago

[troy]

let's see...redskins will be winning late in the 3rd quarter, jc will fumble once and throw 2 interceptions in the 4th quarter. that's his mo. as long as jc is the quarterback we will be a sub .500 team.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by troy

let's see...redskins will be winning late in the 3rd quarter, jc will fumble once and throw 2 interceptions in the 4th quarter. that's his mo. as long as jc is the quarterback we will be a sub .500 team.

So what's your solution? You think we should get rid of Campbell?

[troy]

yes, i think cambell should be traded. he's just not getting it done. his numbers have been good, but that dosen't win games. 3 or 4 losses this year have been from jc turnovers late in the game.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by troy

yes, i think cambell should be traded. he's just not getting it done. his numbers have been good, but that dosen't win games. 3 or 4 losses this year have been from jc turnovers late in the game.

Traded for whom?

[troy]

i'm thinking a high draft pick. but i don't believe he's the future of this team. he's good inbetween the 20's but he make's poor decision's in the red zone.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by troy

i'm thinking a high draft pick. but i don't believe he's the future of this team. he's good inbetween the 20's but he make's poor decision's in the red zone.

During the 2nd Philly game, FOX broadcast that Campbell had a 115 career rating in the red zone with 6 TDs and 0 INTs. He did have the red zone INTs against Dallas and Tampa the next two games, but overall, I'm very bullish on Campbell. He is easily the most talented QB that Gibbs has coached here. Give him a competent running game that can help hold a lead and you'll see Campbell make a quantum leap. It really starts with the O-line IMO.

[NYCSkin]

Originally Posted by troy

i'm thinking a high draft pick. but i don't believe he's the future of this team. he's good inbetween the 20's but he make's poor decision's in the red zone.

So, based on your analysis of Campbell, another team is going to give us a high draft pick? If he stinks in the redzone, why would anyone trade for him? He's good between the 20s--so that is worth what--a second round draft pick? a third?

Given that the Skins have invested so much in Campbell--let's at least give him 30-40 starts before we ultimately pass judgement. And while we're at it--let's give him a few years with the same offensive coordinator. And maybe a relatively healthy O-line. And an average running game. Then we can adequately analyze Campbell before we start over with a new rookie QB...

[Cowell]

Look, I like JC and all but the guy does have some fumble issues. It seems like every time he gets sacked he fumbles, it can get pretty ridiculous. You can't tell me that the fumble yesterday during the 3rd quarter was terrible. He didn't get the ball swatted out of his hand when he was going back to throw he had it tucked and he was going down!

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by troy

yes, i think cambell should be traded. he's just not getting it done. his numbers have been good, but that dosen't win games. 3 or 4 losses this year have been from jc turnovers late in the game.

The guy has about a season's worth of starts under his belt and has shown promise and you want to get rid of him? Just out of curiosity, what are your general thoughts about Portis and Gibbs?

[troy]

coach gibbs is a hall of fame coach with 3 super bowl titles. portis is fine. he rushed for over 1500 yards in 05. portis was injured in 06 and started 07 hurt. i'm not blaming everything that's gone wrong on cambell. but he's lost more games than he's won.

[JankySpanky80]

Originally Posted by troy

let's see...redskins will be winning late in the 3rd quarter, jc will fumble once and throw 2 interceptions in the 4th quarter. that's his mo. as long as jc is the quarterback we will be a sub .500 team.

Look at Troy Aikmans first year as a starter. Carson Palmers as well. There are a ton of first year starters that struggle. Tom Brady's first year as a starter the Pats didn't make it back to the playoffs after winning the SB. Patience and a true Number 1 WR is what will make JC a household name. Everyone expects this team to be great overnight.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by JankySpanky80

Look at Troy Aikmans first year as a starter. Carson Palmers as well. There are a ton of first year starters that struggle. Tom Brady's first year as a starter the Pats didn't make it back to the playoffs after winning the SB. Patience and a true Number 1 WR is what will make JC a household name. Everyone expects this team to be great overnight.

Tom Brady won that SB in 2002 then they missed the playoffs and won in 04 and 05 and if I'm correct it was his 1st year with the team.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Tom Brady won that SB in 2002 then they missed the playoffs and won in 04 and 05 and if I'm correct it was his 1st year with the team.

You aren't correct. Tom Brady's first year with the team was in 2000.

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

You aren't correct. Tom Brady's first year with the team was in 2000.

I don't believe he started that year did he? If my memory serves me correctly he came in for an injured Drew Bledsoe and led his team to a Superbowl victory.

[JankySpanky80]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Tom Brady won that SB in 2002 then they missed the playoffs and won in 04 and 05 and if I'm correct it was his 1st year with the team.

I thought the year they beat the rams was his 2nd year. Bledsoe started that season and Brady mopped up. When Bledsoe was released the following year which was Brady's first full year as a starter they did not do so hot.