Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?

[MTK]

My personal top 10 in no particular order, and I'm basing this only on QBs that I have seen play in my lifetime:

Brady
Manning
Montana
Aikman
Elway
Kelly
Favre
Young
Marino
Moon

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

My personal top 10 in no particular order, and I'm basing this only on QBs that I have seen play in my lifetime:

Brady
Manning
Montana
Aikman
Elway
Kelly
Favre
Young
Marino
Moon

Not a bad list. I might sneak Phil Simms into that top 10. I always thought he was underrated.

And you know who else I liked that never gets much love is Neil Lomax.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

My personal top 10 in no particular order, and I'm basing this only on QBs that I have seen play in my lifetime:

Brady
Manning
Montana
Aikman
Elway
Kelly
Favre
Young
Marino
Moon

Hmm. If did my "football" lifetime (roughly '99-present), it would probably look something like this:

1) Manning
2) Favre
3) Brady
4) Warner
5) Gannon
6) Trent Green
7) Bulger
8) Brees
9) Romo
10) Hasselbeck

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hmm. If did my "football" lifetime (roughly '99-present), it would probably look something like this:

1) Manning
2) Favre
3) Brady
4) Warner
5) Gannon
6) Trent Green
7) Bulger
8) Brees
9) Romo
10) Hasselbeck

Romo after a year and a half of starts? Wow.

I would toss him out and put McNabb on that list if we're only going back to '99.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Romo after a year and a half of starts? Wow.

I would toss him out and put McNabb on that list if we're only going back to '99.

I had to ask myself, "if Tony Romo were to stop improving altoghether, would he make my list".

I thought he still would. He's certainly better now than McNabb ever was. If Romo keeps improving, he's going to rank higher on that list.

Remember, I was one of the last people on this fourm to come around on Romo. I was ultra skeptical of him because he was undrafted. I actually had him ranked in the mid 20's in current NFL QBs in that offseason list we did. Once he proved that he was no one year wonder, I gave him his props.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I had to ask myself, "if Tony Romo were to stop improving altoghether, would he make my list".

I thought he still would. He's certainly better now than McNabb ever was. If Romo keeps improving, he's going to rank higher on that list.

Remember, I was one of the last people on this fourm to come around on Romo. I was ultra skeptical of him because he was undrafted. Once he proved that he was no one year wonder, I gave him his props.

I dont think id agree that Romo is better now than McNabb ever was. This is actually a great discussion because they both had TO, but McNabb has also been great with James Thrash and Todd Stinkson...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

I dont think id agree that Romo is better now than McNabb ever was. This is actually a great discussion because they both had TO, but McNabb has also been great with James Thrash and Todd Stinkson...

I wouldn't say "great". He had one great year in 2004 when he had Owens, but before then, he was pretty good on a great all around team.

Since 2004, he's been pretty good, but injury prone. If one great year could get you on my top 10 list, I'd go Culpepper before McNabb under those circumstances.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I had to ask myself, "if Tony Romo were to stop improving altoghether, would he make my list".

I thought he still would. He's certainly better now than McNabb ever was. If Romo keeps improving, he's going to rank higher on that list.

Remember, I was one of the last people on this fourm to come around on Romo. I was ultra skeptical of him because he was undrafted. Once he proved that he was no one year wonder, I gave him his props.

I dunno, personally I would still take McNabb's best year over Romo's.

In 2004 McNabb was crazy. He threw for 3,875 yards, completed 64%, threw 31 TDs vs. only 8 INTs for a QB rating of 104.7.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I dunno, personally I would still take McNabb's best year over Romo's.

In 2004 McNabb was crazy. He threw for 3,875 yards, completed 64%, threw 31 TDs vs. only 8 INTs for a QB rating of 104.7.

Fair enough. Romo was no. 9 on my list, and it could definately be argued that he isn't better than McNabb if Romo doesn't improve anymore (which is the assumption with this list).

Romo's 2006 is still pretty comprable to anything McNabb has done prior to or since 2004.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Fair enough. Romo was no. 9 on my list, and it could definately be argued that he isn't better than McNabb if Romo doesn't improve anymore (which is the assumption with this list).

Romo's 2006 is still pretty comprable to anything McNabb has done prior to or since 2004.

True.

My only gripe with Romo is all the INTs he throws, but Favre had the same problem early in his career and he ended up ok.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hmm. If did my "football" lifetime (roughly '99-present), it would probably look something like this:

1) Manning
2) Favre
3) Brady
4) Warner
5) Gannon
6) Trent Green
7) Bulger
8) Brees
9) Romo
10) Hasselbeck

I agree with Matty, no Romo, McNabb would be third on my list behind manning and brady in terms of post 99 production. Id also put Carson Palmer on there. Culpepper has some great years with Moss but its hard to overllook the 'after moss years'.

Record wise big ben is near the top of the list too

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

I agree with Matty, no Romo, McNabb would be third on my list behind manning and brady in terms of post 99 production. Id also put Carson Palmer on there. Culpepper has some great years with Moss but its hard to overllook the 'after moss years'.

Record wise big ben is near the top of the list too

yeah I was thinking of Culpepper too, but life after Moss has been pretty ugly for him.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

My personal top 10 in no particular order, and I'm basing this only on QBs that I have seen play in my lifetime:

Brady
Manning
Montana
Aikman
Elway
Kelly
Favre
Young
Marino
Moon

Dude, Montana above Manning!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by QBall

Dude, Montana above Manning!

Dude, read my post very carefully and pay attention to the "in no particular order" part.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Dude, read my post very carefully and pay attention to the "in no particular order" part.

Guy, you say that but it looks like you did rank in order?