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Old 11-30-2008, 03:50 PM   #1
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Re: Redskins vs. Giants Official Game Thread

I'm surprised by the amount of people willing to put this one on the OL when the Giants didn't lay a hand on Campbell for three quarters. I'm not surprised that people are reacting like they are, because we basically gave away the game (albiet against a much better team). I am surprised people are assuming that because they can be angry, that they also know the problem.

The only difference that I've seen in this game thus far is that both defenses are taking away the run, but where the Giants receivers are using the soft field to their advantage and just running slants in front of Rogers, the Redskins receivers are running into coverage, stopping, falling down, and if all else fails, then just dropping the ball. The rest of this game has just been luck.

Campbell has not played well in the second half, but he's hasn't got a whole lot of help either. That doesn't excuse him looking totally lost, but it does explain why he hasn't been productive.
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I'm surprised by the amount of people willing to put this one on the OL when the Giants didn't lay a hand on Campbell for three quarters. I'm not surprised that people are reacting like they are, because we basically gave away the game (albiet against a much better team). I am surprised people are assuming that because they can be angry, that they also know the problem.

The only difference that I've seen in this game thus far is that both defenses are taking away the run, but where the Giants receivers are using the soft field to their advantage and just running slants in front of Rogers, the Redskins receivers are running into coverage, stopping, falling down, and if all else fails, then just dropping the ball. The rest of this game has just been luck.

Campbell has not played well in the second half, but he's hasn't got a whole lot of help either. That doesn't excuse him looking totally lost, but it does explain why he hasn't been productive.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:57 PM   #3
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I'm surprised by the amount of people willing to put this one on the OL when the Giants didn't lay a hand on Campbell for three quarters. I'm not surprised that people are reacting like they are, because we basically gave away the game (albiet against a much better team). I am surprised people are assuming that because they can be angry, that they also know the problem.

The only difference that I've seen in this game thus far is that both defenses are taking away the run, but where the Giants receivers are using the soft field to their advantage and just running slants in front of Rogers, the Redskins receivers are running into coverage, stopping, falling down, and if all else fails, then just dropping the ball. The rest of this game has just been luck.

Campbell has not played well in the second half, but he's hasn't got a whole lot of help either. That doesn't excuse him looking totally lost, but it does explain why he hasn't been productive.
I don't agree. The whole first half we started each drive with two runs and then on third down we would complete a pass three yards short of the marker on a five step drop. Rinse and repeat. The Giants didn't touch Campbell because we were protecting the inept offensive line play. Our oline is only good against the run against average teams. Against top ten defenses our oline isn't good at anything.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:51 PM   #4
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a 5 yrd pass, thats nice on 3rd n 13
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and then a non-call ahould be PI .... what a fuckin joke man the refs of course....
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and then a non-call ahould be PI .... what a fuckin joke man the refs of course....
Only Deus Ex Machina would help us now.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:17 PM   #7
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I dont care if I get banned, so ban me then. Jason Campbell sucks, I said it a long time ago, stop with the excuses please, he is too damn slow, Ive said it and I will say it again. How much time do we give this guy? Im saying it...there needs to be an open competition at QB this offseason. Enough with the blind optimism. There is being a fan and being blinded by emotion. When Portis doesnt hand hold the team and carry the team on his back, Campbell does NOTHING to win a game. Zorns playcalling is basic and predictable. We have zero TRUE recievers. We have two great athletes in Moss and Randle El, but they are not true recievers as far as being route runners, hence they always never seem to be open. Before I get blasted for telling the truth and probably banned, why the hell does everyone on this sight seemingly dissapprove of anyone telling the truth as opposed to blind optimism? Everyone talks of stability, and we have stunk offensively for years. Hell with that, im calling for an overhaul. Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Jansen, Rabach, Randle El, need to go, and Campbell should be given the rest of the year then challenged by Brennan or bring in someone else. Don't even get me started on Jason Taylor. To hell with this boring ass and ineffective offense. I love the Washington Redskins but I absolutely am disgusted with this current collection of players. I will say, atleast the defense played with some heart. Oh yeah, and I also believe i said the Hall signing was good too. I used to love this site but my god, if you say anything against the team you are some how not knowledgeable or a true fan. Playoffs?! Are you kidding?!
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:18 PM   #8
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I dont care if I get banned, so ban me then. Jason Campbell sucks, I said it a long time ago, stop with the excuses please, he is too damn slow, Ive said it and I will say it again. How much time do we give this guy? Im saying it...there needs to be an open competition at QB this offseason. Enough with the blind optimism. There is being a fan and being blinded by emotion. When Portis doesnt hand hold the team and carry the team on his back, Campbell does NOTHING to win a game. Zorns playcalling is basic and predictable. We have zero TRUE recievers. We have two great athletes in Moss and Randle El, but they are not true recievers as far as being route runners, hence they always never seem to be open. Before I get blasted for telling the truth and probably banned, why the hell does everyone on this sight seemingly dissapprove of anyone telling the truth as opposed to blind optimism? Everyone talks of stability, and we have stunk offensively for years. Hell with that, im calling for an overhaul. Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Jansen, Rabach, Randle El, need to go, and Campbell should be given the rest of the year then challenged by Brennan or bring in someone else. Don't even get me started on Jason Taylor. To hell with this boring ass and ineffective offense. I love the Washington Redskins but I absolutely am disgusted with this current collection of players. I will say, atleast the defense played with some heart. Oh yeah, and I also believe i said the Hall signing was good too. I used to love this site but my god, if you say anything against the team you are some how not knowledgeable or a true fan. Playoffs?! Are you kidding?!
thank god, someone who finally agrees with me
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:18 PM   #9
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I dont care if I get banned, so ban me then. Jason Campbell sucks, I said it a long time ago, stop with the excuses please, he is too damn slow, Ive said it and I will say it again. How much time do we give this guy? Im saying it...there needs to be an open competition at QB this offseason. Enough with the blind optimism. There is being a fan and being blinded by emotion. When Portis doesnt hand hold the team and carry the team on his back, Campbell does NOTHING to win a game. Zorns playcalling is basic and predictable. We have zero TRUE recievers. We have two great athletes in Moss and Randle El, but they are not true recievers as far as being route runners, hence they always never seem to be open. Before I get blasted for telling the truth and probably banned, why the hell does everyone on this sight seemingly dissapprove of anyone telling the truth as opposed to blind optimism? Everyone talks of stability, and we have stunk offensively for years. Hell with that, im calling for an overhaul. Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Jansen, Rabach, Randle El, need to go, and Campbell should be given the rest of the year then challenged by Brennan or bring in someone else. Don't even get me started on Jason Taylor. To hell with this boring ass and ineffective offense. I love the Washington Redskins but I absolutely am disgusted with this current collection of players. I will say, atleast the defense played with some heart. Oh yeah, and I also believe i said the Hall signing was good too. I used to love this site but my god, if you say anything against the team you are some how not knowledgeable or a true fan. Playoffs?! Are you kidding?!
I do agree an over haul necessary in some parts with lots of people getting older, but let's give Jason two years in the same offense before we start going crazy.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:22 PM   #10
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I do agree an over haul necessary in some parts with lots of people getting older, but let's give Jason two years in the same offense before we start going crazy.
i dont agree. hes a professional. at this point in the season, we should see improvement..
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I do agree an over haul necessary in some parts with lots of people getting older, but let's give Jason two years in the same offense before we start going crazy.
You're saying to give the guy 6 years to win games?

Next year is his last unless he improves. That's the end of his contract. Zorn must bet his future as a head coach on JC. I think he's good but will never get to the elite level.

It's not just about stats. The best QB win games and score points. We are currently a low-scoring offense under JC. I know there are lots of WR drops, but many of JC passes that aren't thrown well.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:21 PM   #12
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I dont care if I get banned, so ban me then. Jason Campbell sucks, I said it a long time ago, stop with the excuses please, he is too damn slow, Ive said it and I will say it again. How much time do we give this guy? Im saying it...there needs to be an open competition at QB this offseason. Enough with the blind optimism. There is being a fan and being blinded by emotion. When Portis doesnt hand hold the team and carry the team on his back, Campbell does NOTHING to win a game. Zorns playcalling is basic and predictable. We have zero TRUE recievers. We have two great athletes in Moss and Randle El, but they are not true recievers as far as being route runners, hence they always never seem to be open. Before I get blasted for telling the truth and probably banned, why the hell does everyone on this sight seemingly dissapprove of anyone telling the truth as opposed to blind optimism? Everyone talks of stability, and we have stunk offensively for years. Hell with that, im calling for an overhaul. Marcus Washington, Shawn Springs, Jansen, Rabach, Randle El, need to go, and Campbell should be given the rest of the year then challenged by Brennan or bring in someone else. Don't even get me started on Jason Taylor. To hell with this boring ass and ineffective offense. I love the Washington Redskins but I absolutely am disgusted with this current collection of players. I will say, atleast the defense played with some heart. Oh yeah, and I also believe i said the Hall signing was good too. I used to love this site but my god, if you say anything against the team you are some how not knowledgeable or a true fan. Playoffs?! Are you kidding?!
Ive never seen anyone get banned for stating what you are stating,I have seen them get overwhelmingly bullied though,lol
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:25 PM   #13
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Ive never seen anyone get banned for stating what you are stating,I have seen them get overwhelmingly bullied though,lol
Dude, I'm with you. Campbell is just O.K. Colt has something about him I like.
I don't know .....this sucks.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:53 PM   #14
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I am watching the game and am discusted with the play of a few Redskins.Jansen and Swuisam suck!!!!! Jansen stands there and doesnt block anyone,and the kicker couldnt kick a 30 yd field goal,,,,,,he sucks to!!!!
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:53 PM   #15
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we played like crap today, but we still have a shot at the playoffs, we play the benegals, eagles, 49ers, and ravens. we can win these games, but we need the falcons and panthers to keep losing
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