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Old 12-01-2008, 09:14 AM   #1
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

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not to make excuses, but Eli has also had the same offensive coordinator, and the same offense, his entire time in the league
I think the importance of this is taken way to lightly when it comes to Jason.
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:46 PM   #2
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

The offense is a work in progress. Until we've got everything down so it's automatic, we're going to struggle against good Ds. Look at the Giants if you want to see how to execute. We do not play at that level. Yet.

JC is part of the problem right now, but I'm still optimistic that he'll be part of the solution as well. He's got the tools and he's got a great QB coach now. Let's see what the final four games bring. In any event, I'd certainly agree with many of you that even if JC is a problem, he's not the biggest worry by a long shot. We don't have an elite O-line, and you need that to go far in this league. Likewise, you need sacks, one way or the other.

For all that, I didn't expect us to win this one, though I thought we'd be more competitive. And it will take a GREAT effort to beat the Ravens right now. But I do think we'll beat Cincy and SF. And the iggles will be a toss up--if we play well, we should win. Not sure if 10 gets us in, but that would still be a very successful season, IMHO. The jury is still out on this one, folks.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:18 PM   #3
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

Placing the blame with JC is just incredibly narrow minded, but yet so typical.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:23 PM   #4
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Placing the blame with JC is just incredibly narrow minded, but yet so typical.
So far the blame has been heaped on JC, Zorn and Cerrato.. How about we've played teams that are better and/or healthier than us the past month? Portis clearly isn't right, the OL is struggling (Jansen is past well done!) and our special teams are pathetic.

But yeah, it's Campbell's fault and the team should fold.
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Placing the blame with JC is just incredibly narrow minded, but yet so typical.
If you consider me part of this group, I am not blaming Jason Campbell; he's a serviceable QB. I am pointing out that his play has fallen off late in the season, when we needed him the most. I agree; there's a lot of blame to spread around. Portis' incredible string of 125-yard-plus games masked our average passing game, and now that the running game is tougher, the weak passing game is shining through.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:31 PM   #6
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

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If you consider me part of this group, I am not blaming Jason Campbell; he's a serviceable QB. I am pointing out that his play has fallen off late in the season, when we needed him the most. I agree; there's a lot of blame to spread around. Portis' incredible string of 125-yard-plus games masked our average passing game, and now that the running game is tougher, the weak passing game is shining through.
JC is good. the OL and DL are going downhill and dragging JC with them.

It's very unpopular to say anything negative about the best, 'home-grown', QB we've had in almost 20 years. However, our passing game is weak, for many reasons - including JC. Teams have challenged JC to beat them when they load up on Clinton Portis. Until we get better at that, we're not going to score many points.
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JC is good. the OL and DL are going downhill and dragging JC with them.

It's very unpopular to say anything negative about the best, 'home-grown', QB we've had in almost 20 years. However, our passing game is weak, for many reasons - including JC. Teams have challenged JC to beat them when they load up on Clinton Portis. Until we get better at that, we're not going to score many points.
That's true. And the Ravens will pressure JC on every play possible next Sunday. I hope the line gives Campbell time to throw and that the receivers catch the ball.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:38 PM   #8
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JC is good. the OL and DL are going downhill and dragging JC with them.

It's very unpopular to say anything negative about the best, 'home-grown', QB we've had in almost 20 years. However, our passing game is weak, for many reasons - including JC. Teams have challenged JC to beat them when they load up on Clinton Portis. Until we get better at that, we're not going to score many points.
I agree that our passing game has utterly failed three of the last four weeks, and part of it is on Campbell not seeing the field as well as he should be.

But Zorn has put a lot of responsibility on the receivers, and between Randle El missing the final two drives against Dallas with injury, the rain today, and the pass pressure on Campbell against Pittsburgh, every part of the pass offense failed at some point.

The lack of depth is creating a paper-thin margin for error with the passing game, and it's all really hurting Campbell, who has been struggling with the basics recently.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:23 PM   #9
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

Blah, blah, blah...the SKY IS FALLING!

Alot of football left to be played folks! Keep your heads up and lets hope the Skins can pull some kind of run together.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:42 PM   #10
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

A10:

As I pointed out, Jason bears some responsibility for our woes on offense. I just want to make sure the blame isn't unfairly heaped on his shoulders. Sorry if I misinterpreted your post.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:52 PM   #11
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As I pointed out, Jason bears some responsibility for our woes on offense. I just want to make sure the blame isn't unfairly heaped on his shoulders. Sorry if I misinterpreted your post.
JC is not the biggest problem by far. Under better conditions he may take us to victory.

However, there's no doubt that QB is the MOST important position on the team.

I blame Vinny and Danny for this situation. Top Draft picks must go the the OL and DL on a regular basis. You can't just buy your way to the top in these areas with FA. Using the FA-only strategy means keeping players past their prime (see, Bruce Smith). Until our lines improve and get younger we will never know how good the rest of the team really is.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:45 PM   #12
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

I think for 1 person to get blamed 1 person messed up but if more than one its a ratio/fraction. You want someone to blame just call it The Redskins fault. From Snyder to the fans. Fans that sell tickets away and sins of the father who built this team/coaches, sins of the contract negotiators and signing bonus penalties for players that took steps away from progress.
We do have a Redskin problem honestly ever since 1991. We need to fix this. This team/fans don't trust our identity instead we chose to acknowledge or address wants rather needs.

We are not a good team. Every team rolls the dice and only 1 team can win it all. I hope our Skins leadership is more solid and planned heading into the next season. We have to use this energy to get prepared for a season that matters. Playoff contention is faint if still visibly at all. We have to grow up before the season starts to not have our chances shot down.

This is when we should be reaping the seed planted in the offseason. If success amounted to how much love we cheer with sure we win but instability and uncertainty doesn't yield good results. Actually we are reaping now.

Were are Redskins fan!! Disappointment is not new or over. I've been taking lumps since 1991 but I'm still here.

Some mistakes as before mentioned have a side effect like it or not. This game was a distraction in itself with the Ring. Our leadership is inexperienced and the ratio is against us.

SKINSFAN69 spoke of the theme, ELI is stable, was built intelligently= TOWARD A GOAL we change Jason and the team around so much the ray of hope is our defense b/c that takes heart.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:49 PM   #13
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

I think we will finish 9-7, and miss the playoffs. But I think you will see an improved passing offense in the final three games of the season.

The defense is close to an implosion. I know all we can talk about is the offense, but the defense, although their 8-in-the-box schemes worked vs. the run, hasn't played well at all since the Rams game. A lot of inept offenses helped us along the way, but our pass defense is falling apart. We're not a good blitzing team, and because of that, I think a lot of the blame falls at the feet of Blache, who just can't stop blitzing.

I think we should go back to a zone defense. Some cover two mixed in with cover one zone under wouldn't kill us. If Blache needs to blitz, he needs to get Landry back up near the LOS. Because he (and Fletcher) are the only players on the team who can actually time up a blitz.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:50 PM   #14
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

I would like a new WR coach. That's about the only change I would change at this point. I don't know Hixon, and I could be completely wrong, but how many receivers have we gone through? How many have we developed? I know Snyder has paid to bring talent in, but none really have consistently produced. I like what I see in Kelly, Moss obviously is a top receiver, but maybe we could bring in a USC WR coach to work specifically with Thomas, remember he is very young and maybe needs that extra touch.
I don't know but I believe it was Zorn who said that coming in to the game they needed to score 28 to win. So with that as a gauge, the offense absolutely failed
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:52 PM   #15
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Re: What's Wrong with the Redskins?

With the way the special teams have played, I don't see any reason that James Thrash or Todd Yoder makes it on the team next year. Keeping people around for special teams value is important, but it's hard to be worse on teams than these guys have been, and Thrash is useless against 31 defenses, Detroit being the exception.
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