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Old 02-23-2009, 11:02 PM   #1
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Yes. Please explain.
Funny, I kinda already have been:

http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap...tml#post526728

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post529137
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:05 PM   #2
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Keep leading that horse...

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Old 02-24-2009, 12:24 AM   #3
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I'm going to tear my hair out with all these "I'd love Haynesworth, but not for that price!" posts.

THERE IS NO PRICE IF THERE IS NO CAP!!!

Do I need to start an informational thread on the salary cap and why its days are numbered?
So does that mean you'll be out of a job here? LOL.

On a similar note, pardon my ignorance, but with the possibility of having the end of the cap, what's stopping teams like the Redskins to just coast this next season, and then go nuts during the offseason before the cap-less year begins?
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Old 02-24-2009, 09:14 AM   #4
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So does that mean you'll be out of a job here? LOL.

On a similar note, pardon my ignorance, but with the possibility of having the end of the cap, what's stopping teams like the Redskins to just coast this next season, and then go nuts during the offseason before the cap-less year begins?
The available free agent pool next year will not be as deep. In the event the salary cap era comes to an end and a CBA is not reached, all drafted players would have to put in 6 years of time with the team that drafted them before they could become an unrestricted free agent.

That's why you don't see the team pushing hard to extend Jason Campbell. It isn't necessarily that they don't believe in him for the long term. It's that they know that if the CBA expires he will NOT be a free agent next season, he will be the exclusive rights property of the 'Skins and they'll have all the leverage to set the price where they want it. Same with Carlos Rogers.

All the players around the league drafted the same year as Campbell and Rogers would experience the same thing. They won't be eligible for free agency. So the player pool will be very slim next season. The Redskins could try to pounce next year if they wished, but they'll find the pickings slim.
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The available free agent pool next year will not be as deep. In the event the salary cap era comes to an end and a CBA is not reached, all drafted players would have to put in 6 years of time with the team that drafted them before they could become an unrestricted free agent.

That's why you don't see the team pushing hard to extend Jason Campbell. It isn't necessarily that they don't believe in him for the long term. It's that they know that if the CBA expires he will NOT be a free agent next season, he will be the exclusive rights property of the 'Skins and they'll have all the leverage to set the price where they want it. Same with Carlos Rogers.

All the players around the league drafted the same year as Campbell and Rogers would experience the same thing. They won't be eligible for free agency. So the player pool will be very slim next season. The Redskins could try to pounce next year if they wished, but they'll find the pickings slim.
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^^ Thank you, Schneed.
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Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

here is what happens if we sign him....... he is over paid, he wont try and will then suck and be released the following summer.
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here is what happens if we sign him....... he is over paid, he wont try and will then suck and be released the following summer.
That's an argument that at least holds some water. He'll get his money and rest on his laurels. But I can't handle the cap concerns anymore.
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Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

he is the next ADAM ARTUELLETTA or however u spell his insane anglosaxin name
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he is the next ADAM ARTUELLETTA or however u spell his insane anglosaxin name
Thats great. You make a completely unsubstantiated assessment like this and call out a player for having a "white" name. wow.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:11 AM   #11
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Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

The Redskins are NOT interested in Haynesworth. Snyder is doing the agent (who is a friend of his) a favor. Just by meeting with him, the possibility the free-spending skins are interested in Haynesworth, will raise his agent's bargaining position exponentially. Business, not excluding the NFL, is a world of favors and who knows this better than Dan Snyder. Sometime down the road, Wichard might guide one of his clients we are pursuing here over another team. Or maybe if Malcolm Kelly works out, he will be more helpful in getting a reasonable contract extension done with the Redskins.

Snyder took this dinner knowing we cannot realistically afford Haynesworth's asking price. However, another benefit of the meeting is that if we can't get him, why not try and raise his price to ridiculous amount to screw any NFC East team (or any of our NFL competition) who does go after him?

Although I used to be a Snyder basher, I have come to realize we are lucky to have one of the smartest owners in the NFL, and this will show to be true in time. We as skins fans are through the worst years of his ownership. He has learned from his mistakes, and the good years should start to come sooner rather than later.

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Re: King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

Not sure where you're getting your info BHA but once the cap is gone it's not coming back. I think that's pretty much a guarantee.
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Not sure where you're getting your info BHA but once the cap is gone it's not coming back. I think that's pretty much a guarantee.
Agreed. BHA's logic regarding the return of a cap is unsound. He assumes that:

1) A salary floor for NFL franchises could not be set through other means and
2) The players would have a financial incentive to agree to a cap. They most certainly do not.
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That Guy, thanks for the laugh. Your psychoanalysis of the cap and who we should/should not keep gave me a good chuckle. I liked how your started your post by saying I hate quote wars and it's a waste of time. Clearly youre someone that has a lot of free time on his hands.

I'm not going to get into the financial logistics of what it would take to get this player. My retort was that a single player like this could elevate the play of an entire defense and therefor you don't need pro bowlers at every position. My remarks were made due to the people that said "no way", "he has character issues", and "he will get lazy and not play after he gets paid" as if they had a crystal ball and some rare insight as to how someone would perform in the future. I do not agree with this or certain people being so presumptuous. Your taking all this to personally and I never singled you out, but may have made some generalizations about fellow fans, which in hindsight was probably not the best idea. For that I apologize.

For what it's worth, Haynesworth is not only one of the most dominant defensive players in the league, but he is also very versatile for a 300+ pound guy. He can play defensive end, which Tenn. did and had great success with last year.
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:59 AM   #15
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Tampering happens all the time. How else do those 12:01 deals happen when free agency starts? Please. The article about Danny having dinner with an agent is a non-issue.
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