How long do you keep Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly if they don't produce?

[70Chip]

They need to produce this season. The reason is that if they don't, pressure will start to mount from the fans to send Vinny down the road. It goes to Vinny before it goes to Zorn. The press likes Zorn but they think Vinny is a d-bag and a stooge. He willl not survive if these two both blow up on the pad, as it were.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

They need to produce this season. The reason is that if they don't, pressure will start to mount from the fans to send Vinny down the road. It goes to Vinny before it goes to Zorn. The press likes Zorn but they think Vinny is a d-bag and a stooge. He willl not survive if these two both blow up on the pad, as it were.

The press doesnt own the redskins - daniel snyder does. The only person Cerrato and Zorn really need to please is him.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

The press doesnt own the redskins - daniel snyder does. The only person Cerrato and Zorn really need to please is him.

Perhaps. But, I think Vinny should be held accountable for these picks. Those three 2nd rounders represent the best accumulation of picks the Skins have had or will likely have for some time. Those picks could have made a huge difference. If he is seen to have ****ed the dog at that critical moment, he is going out.

If we are supppossed to sit around for the entire lengths of these contracts making excuses and saying, "This week will be the week...blah, blah, blah..." then count me out. I expect each to catch at least 40 passes THIS SEASON.

You can't play in the man's game. You can't catch them. Go home and tell your wife your troubles. Because only one thing counts in this life. Get open and catch passes for First Downs and Touchdowns. You hear me you ****ing faggots. A, B, C. Always Be Catching. Always Be Catching.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Perhaps. But, I think Vinny should be held accountable for these picks. Those three 2nd rounders represent the best accumulation of picks the Skins have had or will likely have for some time. Those picks could have made a huge difference. If he is seen to have ****ed the dog at that critical moment, he is going out.

If we are supppossed to sit around for the entire lengths of these contracts making excuses and saying, "This week will be the week...blah, blah, blah..." then count me out. I expect each to catch at least 40 passes THIS SEASON.

You can't play in the man's game. You can't catch them. Go home and tell your wife your troubles. Because only one thing counts in this life. Get open and catch passes for First Downs and Touchdowns. You hear me you ****ing faggots. A, B, C. Always Be Catching. Always Be Catching.

40 catches each huh? And how many for Moss, Randle El, and Cooley?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

calm down with the language

40 catches each huh? And how many for Moss, Randle El, and Cooley?

You worried they can't catch 40 passes? Have I set the bar too high? Are you worried they can't get on the field ahead of Moss and Randle-El? Then why did we draft them? Hell they can't get on the field ahead of Thrash.

And sorry about the language I was paraphrasing a character from a film. I figured that if Alec Baldwin can say it, it must be okay.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

You worried they can't catch 40 passes? Have I set the bar too high? Are you worried they can't get on the field ahead of Moss and Randle-El? Then why did we draft them? Hell they can't get on the field ahead of Thrash.

And sorry about the language I was paraphrasing a character from a film. I figured that if Alec Baldwin can say it, it must be okay.

I don't know the actual numbers but how often do the #3 and #4 receivers each get 40 catches. (I'm working under the assumption that Moss and Cooley are essentially 1 and 2)

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know the actual numbers but how often do the #3 and #4 receivers each get 40 catches. (I'm working under the assumption that Moss and Cooley are essentially 1 and 2)

This is what I don't get. Why did we spend two high draft picks on #3 and #4 receivers? We already had #3 and #4 receivers. With their size and athleticism, one of them should be the #1 receiver. When they chosen, I don't remember anyone saying, "Good. We finally have those #3 and #4 receivers, we've been wanting". No. The talk was all about how Santana would handle being demoted.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know the actual numbers but how often do the #3 and #4 receivers each get 40 catches. (I'm working under the assumption that Moss and Cooley are essentially 1 and 2)

From his comments i think the point is kelly and thomas should be passing thrash and randel in the depth chart. So by seasons end if these guys arent the 2nd and 3rd option something is wrong. Them maturing and campbell being in the second year of the same offense we can expect those numbers.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't know the actual numbers but how often do the #3 and #4 receivers each get 40 catches. (I'm working under the assumption that Moss and Cooley are essentially 1 and 2)

So where would Randle El fit in? I don't think anyone should expect Moss, Cooley, Thomas, Kelly, and Randle El to all be real contributors. Moss and Cooley of course. The other three? We shall see. Don't forget Zorn has repeatedly said he really wants to get Fred Davis involved too.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Perhaps. But, I think Vinny should be held accountable for these picks. Those three 2nd rounders represent the best accumulation of picks the Skins have had or will likely have for some time. Those picks could have made a huge difference. If he is seen to have ****ed the dog at that critical moment, he is going out.

If we are supppossed to sit around for the entire lengths of these contracts making excuses and saying, "This week will be the week...blah, blah, blah..." then count me out. I expect each to catch at least 40 passes THIS SEASON.

You can't play in the man's game. You can't catch them. Go home and tell your wife your troubles. Because only one thing counts in this life. Get open and catch passes for First Downs and Touchdowns. You hear me you ****ing faggots. A, B, C. Always Be Catching. Always Be Catching.

Nice Glengarry Glen Ross reference. Alec Baldwin is still the man.