Obama Care

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

At whose cost?

Where did the idea get started that everyone has a 'right' to the services of another human being?

It will cost us as much as it did to " give everyone a house " . NO FREE LUNCH . I hope like hell that we improve our healthcare , but scrapping an imperfect system makes us much sence as the Redskins releasing our entire OL , WR's and JC because they were not a top 5 offense .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by budw38

It will cost us as much as it did to " give everyone a house " . NO FREE LUNCH . I hope like hell that we improve our healthcare , but scrapping an imperfect system makes us much sence as the Redskins releasing our entire OL , WR's and JC because they were not a top 5 offense .

don't give away VC's strategies in a silly healthcare debate.... Geez

[budw38]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

don't give away VC's strategies in a silly healthcare debate.... Geez

How are you CRedskin . I think we will be fine on offense as long as our Line plays well .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by budw38

How are you CRedskin . I think we will be fine on offense as long as our Line plays well .

I am good, I think we are gonna do some real damage this year. Personally I 'm hoping atleast for the division title, but alas the season is sooooo far away.

I was just playing on your analogy; people are in such a hurry to scrap a system that has produced so many modern miracles, it just really amazes me.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am good, I think we are gonna do some real damage this year. Personally I 'm hoping atleast for the division title, but alas the season is sooooo far away.

I was just playing on your analogy; people are in such a hurry to scrap a system that has produced so many modern miracles, it just really amazes me.

I agree , maybe I'am wrong but 85 % of Americans like the health care they have ? Of course , we should always look for improvements in everything we do as a nation and as individuals .

[Beemnseven]

Now, this is a excerpt from a recent George Will column. Dismiss it if you like, but just consider the facts about this figure we hear so much about: the 45 million uninsured -- the people for whom we have to create a massive new government program.

Although 70 percent of insured Americans rate their health-care arrangements good or excellent, radical reform of health care is supposedly necessary because there are 45.7 million uninsured. That number is, however, a "snapshot" of a nation in which more than 20 million working Americans change jobs every year. Many of them are briefly uninsured between jobs. If all the uninsured were assembled for a group photograph, and six months later the then-uninsured were assembled for another photograph, about half the people in the photos would be different.

Almost 39 percent of the uninsured are in five states -- Florida, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California, all of which are entry points for immigrants. About 21 percent -- 9.7 million -- of the uninsured are not citizens. As many as 14 million are eligible for existing government programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, veterans' benefits, etc. -- but have not enrolled. And 9.1 million have household incomes of at least $75,000 and could purchase insurance. Those last two cohorts are more than half of the 45.7 million.

Insuring the perhaps 20 million persons who are protractedly uninsured because they cannot afford insurance is conceptually simple: Give them money -- (refundable) tax credits or debit cards (which have replaced food stamps) loaded with a particular value. This would produce people who are more empowered than dependent. Unfortunately, advocates of a government option consider that a defect. Which is why the simple idea of the dependency agenda cuts like a razor through the complexities of this debate.

This is something I've never heard addressed by those who favor a public option -- if you're so concerned about the cost of healthcare for those who cannot afford it, why not make the cost tax deductable just like it is for employers?