Faulk's top 5 TE'S NO COOLEY!!!!!

[vallin21]

Faulk's list is good, but I'd take Cooley over Dainels anyday, and his production over the last 2 yrs reflects that.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Faulk's list is good, but I'd take Cooley over Dainels anyday, and his production over the last 2 yrs reflects that.

Like every other Redskins fan I am a big Chris Cooley supporter. Have the authentic jersey, multiple autographs, etc. to prove it. But you can't just dismiss Owen Daniels because you have (probably) never seen him play and his name is not familiar. He is a slightly more dynamic player than Cooley and has an edge in athleticism. I mean, I'd take Cooley on my team any day, and you can make the argument that he has had four consistently good seasons (of five) in a row while Daniels only has two (of three), but it is by no means crazy to place Daniels above Cooley. Cooley is right there with those guys, who cares if he is "#6" or "#7." And as far as production goes, it is really close so I don't know how you can use that criteria to exclude Daniels.

Daniels -

2007 - 63 catches, 768 yards, 3 tds
2008 - 70 catches, 862 yards, 2 tds

Cooley -

2007 - 66 catches, 786 yards, 8 tds
2008 - 83 catches, 849 yards, 1 td

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Like every other Redskins fan I am a big Chris Cooley supporter. Have the authentic jersey, multiple autographs, etc. to prove it. But you can't just dismiss Owen Daniels because you have (probably) never seen him play and his name is not familiar. He is a slightly more dynamic player than Cooley and has an edge in athleticism. I mean, I'd take Cooley on my team any day, and you can make the argument that he has had four consistently good seasons (of five) in a row while Daniels only has two (of three), but it is by no means crazy to place Daniels above Cooley. Cooley is right there with those guys, who cares if he is "#6" or "#7." And as far as production goes, it is really close so I don't know how you can use that criteria to exclude Daniels.

Daniels -

2007 - 63 catches, 768 yards, 3 tds
2008 - 70 catches, 862 yards, 2 tds

Cooley -

2007 - 66 catches, 786 yards, 8 tds
2008 - 83 catches, 849 yards, 1 td

I agree, I think Daniels gets dismissed just because the Texans aren't as popular/good so they don't get many primetime games. And they're not local, so unless they play the Skins, we would rarely see them play. It is undeniable, however, that Owen Daniels is a very good Tight End.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Like every other Redskins fan I am a big Chris Cooley supporter. Have the authentic jersey, multiple autographs, etc. to prove it. But you can't just dismiss Owen Daniels because you have (probably) never seen him play and his name is not familiar. He is a slightly more dynamic player than Cooley and has an edge in athleticism. I mean, I'd take Cooley on my team any day, and you can make the argument that he has had four consistently good seasons (of five) in a row while Daniels only has two (of three), but it is by no means crazy to place Daniels above Cooley. Cooley is right there with those guys, who cares if he is "#6" or "#7." And as far as production goes, it is really close so I don't know how you can use that criteria to exclude Daniels.

Daniels -

2007 - 63 catches, 768 yards, 3 tds
2008 - 70 catches, 862 yards, 2 tds

Cooley -

2007 - 66 catches, 786 yards, 8 tds
2008 - 83 catches, 849 yards, 1 td

I'm not excluding Dainels, I just think he's a very good receiving TE. Cooley is an all around TE. He's definitely a better blocker, has good hands, and can stretch the field. The list should be based on all the attributes (not just receiving) a TE should have and Cooley has a little bit of everything.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by vallin21

I'm not excluding Dainels, I just think he's a very good receiving TE. Cooley is an all around TE. He's definitely a better blocker, has good hands, and can stretch the field. The list should be based on all the attributes (not just receiving) a TE should have and Cooley has a little bit of everything.

You don't think Daniels' is at least a decent blocker? I don't think he's any more of a liability as a blocking tight end than Cooley, personally.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You don't think Daniels' is at least a decent blocker? I don't think he's any more of a liability as a blocking tight end than Cooley, personally.

Average is probably the better word. Sure he's not a liability, but he's not asset either. I don't think the same can be for Cooley who knows he needs to block for Portis to open up the passing game for himself and others. I think Dainels is a good TE who can stretch the field and is probably the best run after the catch TE right now, but if you ask him to block I don't think he's as open to it as Cooley.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Average is probably the better word. Sure he's not a liability, but he's not asset either. I don't think the same can be for Cooley who knows he needs to block for Portis to open up the passing game for himself and others. I think Dainels is a good TE who can stretch the field and is probably the best run after the catch TE right now, but if you ask him to block I don't think he's as open to it as Cooley.

You think he refuses to block, or complains about it? Am I understanding you right?

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You think he refuses to block, or complains about it? Am I understanding you right?

He's going to block but he probably doesn't care about it as much as pass catching. In terms of all around talent at the TE position, I just think Cooley has an edge.