Obama Care

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Saden answered it perfectly, but I'll elaborate a little.

You're basically saying Enron was not greedy, because they were fraudulent. The two are not mutually exclusive. It is possible to be greedy and fraudulent at the same time. And, like Saden said, fraud is almost always motivated by greed.

I fail to see how if something is illegal then it cannot be greedy. That makes absolutely no sense. That's why I gave up explaining this to Firstdown. You surprise me, because I never thought you'd use the same ridiculous reasoning.



I'm probably misunderstanding you (and the word "philosophically" does not change anything), but if not then I feel very bad for you. I think Saden was right -- you don't understand what greed is.

GDA, I think you misunderstood my point. I agree that when corporations do stuff like that it is in alot of cases greed. My point was that what they were doing was already against the law. If people are set out to rip people off (get greedy) it does not matter if they work for a corporation or the goverment its going to happen. In either case we have laws against such acts. Madoff was a greedy old man and did not give a crap that he was ripping off people and now he is paying the price. You could also say congress is full of people who are greedy and will take any money from who ever throws it there way and then vote for bills which they really do not support just because of the money.