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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

You say that making as much money as possible is fine, but not at the expense of your customers, employees, and shareholders. No kidding. One constitutes fraud [not greed], the other does not. ... That's why the Enron Wiki link does nothing to prove your point [as an example of greed]. Enron engaged in accounting fraud which is against the law [but did not engage in corporate greed].

Saden answered it perfectly, but I'll elaborate a little.

You're basically saying Enron was not greedy, because they were fraudulent. The two are not mutually exclusive. It is possible to be greedy and fraudulent at the same time. And, like Saden said, fraud is almost always motivated by greed.

I fail to see how if something is illegal then it cannot be greedy. That makes absolutely no sense. That's why I gave up explaining this to Firstdown. You surprise me, because I never thought you'd use the same ridiculous reasoning.

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

That's why philisophically, I don't accept that 'greed' or even 'selfishness' is necessarily a bad thing.

I'm probably misunderstanding you (and the word "philosophically" does not change anything), but if not then I feel very bad for you. I think Saden was right -- you don't understand what greed is.