Another Vinny Special: Deangelo Hall

[GTripp0012]

I do have something nice to say about Hall, and that's the fact that he's pretty good at not getting beat deep. Even the best receivers in the league can't really get behind him.

Due to this, bad quarterbacks do struggle a LOT against DeAngelo Hall. Not being able to complete a pass against him is a pretty good indication that a quarterback doesn't have "the goods".

Next 5 weeks, the best quarterback we face is Byron Leftwich, assuming he's healthy. Delhomme, Cassel, Bulger, and Stafford all sort of suck in their own ways.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do have something nice to say about Hall, and that's the fact that he's pretty good at not getting beat deep. Even the best receivers in the league can't really get behind him.

Due to this, bad quarterbacks do struggle a LOT against DeAngelo Hall. Not being able to complete a pass against him is a pretty good indication that a quarterback doesn't have "the goods".

Next 5 weeks, the best quarterback we face is Byron Leftwich, assuming he's healthy. Delhomme, Cassel, Bulger, and Stafford all sort of suck in their own ways.

See, that wasn't so hard was it?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

See, that wasn't so hard was it?

I actually feel warm and fuzzy now

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I actually feel warm and fuzzy now

LOL.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do have something nice to say about Hall, and that's the fact that he's pretty good at not getting beat deep. Even the best receivers in the league can't really get behind him.

Due to this, bad quarterbacks do struggle a LOT against DeAngelo Hall. Not being able to complete a pass against him is a pretty good indication that a quarterback doesn't have "the goods".

Next 5 weeks, the best quarterback we face is Byron Leftwich, assuming he's healthy. Delhomme, Cassel, Bulger, and Stafford all sort of suck in their own ways.

You are talking about DeAngello Hall right?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You are talking about DeAngello Hall right?

Yeah. I did a TD/INT ratio for corners, and Hall actually grades out pretty well. But if you do TD + First Downs/INT rate, just a small adjustment, he's one of the worst in the league.

Any quarterback that can throw in rhythm can beat him. Those who aren't rhythm passers are at a major disadvantage.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah. I did a TD/INT ratio for corners, and Hall actually grades out pretty well. But if you do TD + First Downs/INT rate, just a small adjustment, he's one of the worst in the league.

Any quarterback that can throw in rhythm can beat him. Those who aren't rhythm passers are at a major disadvantage.

So...would you say the rhythm is gonna get him?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do have something nice to say about Hall, and that's the fact that he's pretty good at not getting beat deep. Even the best receivers in the league can't really get behind him.

Due to this, bad quarterbacks do struggle a LOT against DeAngelo Hall. Not being able to complete a pass against him is a pretty good indication that a quarterback doesn't have "the goods".

Next 5 weeks, the best quarterback we face is Byron Leftwich, assuming he's healthy. Delhomme, Cassel, Bulger, and Stafford all sort of suck in their own ways.

I don't think Bulger sucks. He's a capable NFL QB if he's got good players around him. He's just on a bad team. Delhomme? He sucks. Real bad.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think Bulger sucks. He's a capable NFL QB if he's got good players around him. He's just on a bad team. Delhomme? He sucks. Real bad.

Bulger is Roethlisberger without the ability to break tackles or otherwise extend the play. In other words, he plays to the quality of the defense.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Bulger is Roethlisberger without the ability to break tackles or otherwise extend the play. In other words, he plays to the quality of the defense.

Well we won't see Bulger improvise. But he's shown that if he's got people around him he can play at a high level. But he's certainly not going to carry an offense. I'd say he's an average NFL QB that's playing on a bad team. On a side note I think Steven Jackson is one of the best backs in the league but he's stuck in STL. Put him on Minn and you might see him put up numbers like AP does.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well we won't see Bulger improvise. But he's shown that if he's got people around him he can play at a high level. But he's certainly not going to carry an offense. I'd say he's an average NFL QB that's playing on a bad team. On a side note I think Steven Jackson is one of the best backs in the league but he's stuck in STL. Put him on Minn and you might see him put up numbers like AP does.

That's probably about right.

Jackson is pretty great, and especially effective in the passing game.