Willie Parker a Skin

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

SFREDSKIN= "Maybe Portis will be traded?"
Dirtbag359="Maybe Portis ends up being the odd man out."
jdc65="I think Portis will not be on this team past camp."


First of all, Why is it that every time i defend CP people act like either i AM him or that i'm his biggest fan!? My current favorite Skin is London Fletcher, followed closely by DeAngelo Hall, Cooley, and THEN Portis. None of who am I more devoted to than my altime favs Darrell Green, Art Monk, and Sean Taylor. Portis is the friggin man and I will not let one concussion and a few bad statements change my whole opinion of him.

Sorry if my post seems unwarranted. It's not in direct response to many posts here. My friends are doggin' me about it. Either they are like, "Ha ha! New people in charge and they are STILL doing the same thing!" in reference to grabbing players past their prime... but mostly i'm getting it from friends that think that Fast Willie is guaranteed the #1 spot cuz Portis is old and LJ is slow. Granted, the one that is picking on me the most is a Steelers fan...
As for your opinion... i kinda agree. But to me, the only thing that will REALLY make him better is a better O-line.

People who think that it is business as usual have no idea what they are talking about. When you sign proven players to one year deals you are creating a competitive environment. One year incentive laden deals are the best possible contract for the team. The player has no advantage in that situation.

Fast Willie isn't guaranteed the #1 spot at all. He probably has more to overcome than Portis and Johnson. Some people hate Portis so they ignore the facts.

Portis is the youngest of the three. Portis has a great track record in this coach's system. Portis' injury was a concussion not a blown out knee and I believe he would have come back earlier if they had anything to play for. I would argue that Portis has less doubts than Johnson and Parker.

Let the other team's fans say what they want. When our runningbacks are dumptrucking them you can laugh at all of them.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

People who think that it is business as usual have no idea what they are talking about. When you sign proven players to one year deals you are creating a competitive environment. One year incentive laden deals are the best possible contract for the team. The player has no advantage in that situation.

Fast Willie isn't guaranteed the #1 spot at all. He probably has more to overcome than Portis and Johnson. Some people hate Portis so they ignore the facts.

Portis is the youngest of the three. Portis has a great track record in this coach's system. Portis' injury was a concussion not a blown out knee and I believe he would have come back earlier if they had anything to play for. I would argue that Portis has less doubts than Johnson and Parker.

Let the other team's fans say what they want. When our runningbacks are dumptrucking them you can laugh at all of them.

All good points, what these two signings do is put very talented players in a highly competitive state, through financial incentives, with CP who really has no financial incentive. It is up to the coaches to get the best out of every player on the team, and if CP views this as a wake up call and participates and outperforms the other two the team wins, if he doesn't bounce back and either of the other two meet their incentives, the team still wins. Excellent for fans of the team, not necessarily for fans(or haters) of a specific player.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

All good points, what these two signings do is put very talented players in a highly competitive state, through financial incentives, with CP who really has no financial incentive. It is up to the coaches to get the best out of every player on the team, and if CP views this as a wake up call and participates and outperforms the other two the team wins, if he doesn't bounce back and either of the other two meet their incentives, the team still wins. Excellent for fans of the team, not necessarily for fans(or haters) of a specific player.

Portis does have about 3 - 4 million of incentive to be on the team this year.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Portis does have about 3 - 4 million of incentive to be on the team this year.

According to Sat Washington Post it's 6 million due Portis,in my opinion....he's traded on draft day for more picks,or to move up.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Giantone

According to Sat Washington Post it's 6 million due Portis,in my opinion....he's traded on draft day for more picks,or to move up.

You are right. I think there was a half a million workout bonus but the rest of his 10+ million cap number is guaranteed. (roughly 3 mill in SB and 6 million in salary)

His agent did a good job for him.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

The 6.5 is guaranteed. He will make over 10 if he makes it through the season.

He still has some miles left,I think his price makes him expendable.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

He still has some miles left,I think his price makes him expendable.

I think MS/BA make him expendable, they have done a solid job RB wise.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

The 6.5 is guaranteed. He will make over 10 if he makes it through the season.

My point about the financial incentives was that Portis doesn't have stat related incentives. I don't know this for a fact, but all in all, this backfield looks very capable ASSUMING nfl caliber line play. I really want to see how BA/MS address the line. The backs will all prove themselves.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

My point about the financial incentives was that Portis doesn't have stat related incentives. I don't know this for a fact, but all in all, this backfield looks very capable ASSUMING nfl caliber line play. I really want to see how BA/MS address the line. The backs will all prove themselves.

You are right. The only incentive he has here is a workout bonus... lol

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

According to Sat Washington Post it's 6 million due Portis,in my opinion....he's traded on draft day for more picks,or to move up.

Who will trade for his $6 million+ guaranteed contract?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Who will trade for his $6 million+ guaranteed contract?

That really is the 6 million dollar question. Id love to package Portis with our 5th rounder for a 3rd round pick.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

People who think that it is business as usual have no idea what they are talking about. When you sign proven players to one year deals you are creating a competitive environment. One year incentive laden deals are the best possible contract for the team. The player has no advantage in that situation.

Fast Willie isn't guaranteed the #1 spot at all. He probably has more to overcome than Portis and Johnson. Some people hate Portis so they ignore the facts.

Portis is the youngest of the three. Portis has a great track record in this coach's system. Portis' injury was a concussion not a blown out knee and I believe he would have come back earlier if they had anything to play for. I would argue that Portis has less doubts than Johnson and Parker.

Let the other team's fans say what they want. When our runningbacks are dumptrucking them you can laugh at all of them.

I agree. I don't particulary like Portis, but this is straight up telling it like it is. It's all about competition.