Rodgers talks about redskins organization

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Carlos is a punk bitch and that's why I've never liked him, he has always trashed the redskins, the team that gave him the chance at the NFL.. Of course he can talk shit hid team is 8-1 and we r 3-6

This kills me....why when do "our" players leave they all say the same thing, yet its the players that are the issue? He is speaking the truth.. For years this organization has let our players leave, thinking the grass was greener by signing other teams players. It creates a horrible locker room, no loyalty by the younger players because they are looking out to see who we are going to sign next year, no matter how well you play. I mean look at Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark to name a couple. THose guys played their asses off and what did it get them? Sent packing. So they went to better organizations and won some super bowls.

Carlos is just one of the many that have left and said what was really or is really going on in that building. Look at how well he is playing now in SF. Do you think that maybe he was a little distracted by all the crap in Ashburn? I think the guy was a good cover guy, couldn't catch, but the recievers didn't catch the ball either. I wouldn't mind having him here right now. I think him and Hall made a better combination than Hall and Wilson.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

This kills me....why when do "our" players leave they all say the same thing, yet its the players that are the issue? He is speaking the truth.. For years this organization has let our players leave, thinking the grass was greener by signing other teams players. It creates a horrible locker room, no loyalty by the younger players because they are looking out to see who we are going to sign next year, no matter how well you play. I mean look at Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark to name a couple. THose guys played their asses off and what did it get them? Sent packing. So they went to better organizations and won some super bowls.

Carlos is just one of the many that have left and said what was really or is really going on in that building. Look at how well he is playing now in SF. Do you think that maybe he was a little distracted by all the crap in Ashburn? I think the guy was a good cover guy, couldn't catch, but the recievers didn't catch the ball either. I wouldn't mind having him here right now. I think him and Hall made a better combination than Hall and Wilson.

I feel like only Ryan Clark could really make somewhat of a legit complaint. I mean why doesn't Antonio Pierce talk about how every NFL team passed him up in the 2001 draft and the Redskins were the team that at least gave him a shot. Or that we re-signed him before the Vikings came after him.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I feel like only Ryan Clark could really make somewhat of a legit complaint. I mean why doesn't Antonio Pierce talk about how every NFL team passed him up in the 2001 draft and the Redskins were the team that at least gave him a shot. Or that we re-signed him before the Vikings came after him.

Champ was another one - We felt we could trade him and get a RB instead of keeping a perenial probowler, future hall of fame CB. And yes Portis was a good RB for us, and I dont want to hear that he wouldn't have resigned, because you show him the money and he's a Redskin for life. Portis has been very unproductive the last 3 years, out of the NFL.

Letting Brad Johnson go - went on to win a superbowl in Tampa, for George??

Steven Davis - Played in a Superbowl with Carolina - for Trung Candidate??

Chris Clemons - although wasn't a star, he is having some solid years in Seattle. I thought he was a spot starter, good depth, but we let him go

I am sure there are others, but this organization has shown its disregard for developing young talent, then allowing them to leave or trade them away in some cases for what is perceived to be better players drafted by other teams.

Hell, Brian Mitchell is one of the best cases for this. We let him go to sign that guy from the Jets...Chad something or another. And B Mitch went on to have some solid years in Philly and NY.

THis has been a trend for a long time. And every single one of those players mentioned all said the same thing in a variety of ways.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

This kills me....why when do "our" players leave they all say the same thing, yet its the players that are the issue? He is speaking the truth.. For years this organization has let our players leave, thinking the grass was greener by signing other teams players. It creates a horrible locker room, no loyalty by the younger players because they are looking out to see who we are going to sign next year, no matter how well you play. I mean look at Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark to name a couple. THose guys played their asses off and what did it get them? Sent packing. So they went to better organizations and won some super bowls.

Carlos is just one of the many that have left and said what was really or is really going on in that building. Look at how well he is playing now in SF. Do you think that maybe he was a little distracted by all the crap in Ashburn? I think the guy was a good cover guy, couldn't catch, but the recievers didn't catch the ball either. I wouldn't mind having him here right now. I think him and Hall made a better combination than Hall and Wilson.

No, Carlos's complaints are all tied to his exorbitant demands not being met. This is similar to Dockery, in which we let him go because it wasn't worth matching that contract would have been an overpay. .

Understand that you keep players by PAYING players. We are buying a service from them. We paid Samuels, Jansen, even Lavar, etc because they did very substantial things before their contract year. Carlos did not do enough and didn't even bother to get contracts. So, Hall doesn't deserve his contract. Now we should make the same mistake again to Carlos simply because we made it once? No, Shanahan and Allen should NOT repeat the goddamn overpay Vinny gave Hall simply because it is "fair" to Carlos Rogers.

Who goes out and says, "give me a raise first, then I'll do better"? It doesn't work that way most of the time. You gotta earn that raise.

We would be competing for having the most awful 19 million dollar pair of starting cornerbacks.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

No, Carlos's complaints are all tied to his exorbitant demands not being met. This is similar to Dockery, in which we let him go because it wasn't worth matching that contract would have been an overpay. .

Understand that you keep players by PAYING players. We are buying a service from them. We paid Samuels, Jansen, even Lavar, etc because they did very substantial things before their contract year. Carlos did not do enough and didn't even bother to get contracts. So, Hall doesn't deserve his contract. Now we should make the same mistake again to Carlos simply because we made it once? No, Shanahan and Allen should NOT repeat the goddamn overpay Vinny gave Hall simply because it is "fair" to Carlos Rogers.

Who goes out and says, "give me a raise first, then I'll do better"? It doesn't work that way most of the time. You gotta earn that raise.

We would be competing for having the most awful 19 million dollar pair of starting cornerbacks.

Perhaps this is what 56fan is....angling for?

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

This kills me....why when do "our" players leave they all say the same thing, yet its the players that are the issue? He is speaking the truth.. For years this organization has let our players leave, thinking the grass was greener by signing other teams players. It creates a horrible locker room, no loyalty by the younger players because they are looking out to see who we are going to sign next year, no matter how well you play. I mean look at Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark to name a couple. THose guys played their asses off and what did it get them? Sent packing. So they went to better organizations and won some super bowls.

Carlos is just one of the many that have left and said what was really or is really going on in that building. Look at how well he is playing now in SF. Do you think that maybe he was a little distracted by all the crap in Ashburn? I think the guy was a good cover guy, couldn't catch, but the recievers didn't catch the ball either. I wouldn't mind having him here right now. I think him and Hall made a better combination than Hall and Wilson.

i'm with you, i really wanted him to stay too, just wasn't going to happen. same with champ, it wasn't like we just traded him, he was pretty vocal about not wanting to return too, if i remember right. watching him play out in denver still kills me