2012 Free Agency Wish List

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

IMO Landry seems to be taking the Los way of trying to get out of Washington, I be surprised if he is back. Other then the first half of 2010 he has been a major disappointment and not to mention he seems like all around D-Bag.

At least Rogers was healthy (if I remember correctly). Honestly, the Redskins are pretty much in a position to do whatever the hell they want with Landry. And I don't see many options for him with that huge question mark on his health.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

At least Rogers was healthy (if I remember correctly). Honestly, the Redskins are pretty much in a position to do whatever the hell they want with Landry. And I don't see many options for him with that huge question mark on his health.

Excellent point! F him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

At least Rogers was healthy (if I remember correctly). Honestly, the Redskins are pretty much in a position to do whatever the hell they want with Landry. And I don't see many options for him with that huge question mark on his health.

Here's the thing with Landry: he was one of the most tradeable commodities on the team back in 2010, though it seemed like he was kept because Haslett felt like he could be the cornerstone of what he wanted to do with defense. Right now, Landry is damaged goods and we have to assume (despite Landry's assertions to the contrary) that this is no fault of the Redskins.

But to have your most valuable, tradeable player in 2010 become a player who walks elsewhere to become someone elses reclamation project in 2012? Just two years later? If things are really different with this front office, they will find a way (via a franchise tag or a two year contract offer) to keep Landry from hitting the market right? Because I know what Vinny would do in this situation: he'd let Landry sign elsewhere and then leak details of his attempted rehabilitation to selected media sources. I'm sure Shanahan is above that though.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Here's the thing with Landry: he was one of the most tradeable commodities on the team back in 2010, though it seemed like he was kept because Haslett felt like he could be the cornerstone of what he wanted to do with defense. Right now, Landry is damaged goods and we have to assume (despite Landry's assertions to the contrary) that this is no fault of the Redskins.

But to have your most valuable, tradeable player in 2010 become a player who walks elsewhere to become someone elses reclamation project in 2012? Just two years later? If things are really different with this front office, they will find a way (via a franchise tag or a two year contract offer) to keep Landry from hitting the market right? Because I know what Vinny would do in this situation: he'd let Landry sign elsewhere and then leak details of his attempted rehabilitation to selected media sources. I'm sure Shanahan is above that though.

Don't you think it's time to turn the page with LL? He's had a half of one good season. The guy can't stay healthy and even when he is I certainly don't put him up there with the top safties.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Don't you think it's time to turn the page with LL? He's had a half of one good season. The guy can't stay healthy and even when he is I certainly don't put him up there with the top safties.

It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.

Landry's talent was never in question. He's a total knucklehead, though. He just ignored the recommendation of a renowned surgeon and refused surgery on that achilles tendon... the same thing he did last offseason, and we all see how that worked. I guess the franchise tag wouldn't be terrible to use on him since there's no long term issue.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Landry's talent was never in question. He's a total knucklehead, though. He just ignored the recommendation of a renowned surgeon and refused surgery on that achilles tendon... the same thing he did last offseason, and we all see how that worked. I guess the franchise tag wouldn't be terrible to use on him since there's no long term issue.

My thing is even if you judge Landry on what is (a guy with a bad achillies), and not what can be, he's still worth about $5-$8 million a year and starts for every team.

You just don't want to tie up signing bonus money in an injury liability, just because of the way SB money affects the cap. Based on that, the tag is the best of both worlds: you get him below his market value, and you don't have a commitment to him beyond 2012.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

My thing is even if you judge Landry on what is (a guy with a bad achillies), and not what can be, he's still worth about $5-$8 million a year and starts for every team.

You just don't want to tie up signing bonus money in an injury liability, just because of the way SB money affects the cap. Based on that, the tag is the best of both worlds: you get him below his market value, and you don't have a commitment to him beyond 2012.

I agree. It's just frustrating because we all know his ceiling is a top 2 or 3 safety in the NFL- we've seen it. But he can't stay healthy... so now he has his first full normal offseason under Shanahan, he has a great opportunity to get fully healthy and have the surgery, and he just blows off the doctors orders.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.

I say tag Davis and let Landry test the market. Landry is going into his 6th year and has really played dominant ball for half a season. I just don't think the guy is a student of the game. He doesn't work at his craft so to me he's never going to truly reach his potential.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I say tag Davis and let Landry test the market. Landry is going into his 6th year and has really played dominant ball for half a season. I just don't think the guy is a student of the game. He doesn't work at his craft so to me he's never going to truly reach his potential.

Which, yeah, that's fine with me.

You don't have much of a defense without an effective Landry (though I would argue that Landry was easily our best safety last year, even considering that he played a half-season at 80%), and letting him walk for the $6 million of salary cap room he frees up sure seems like a gamble that we're going to get it done on offense this year. The head coach is an offensive guy, so he has the clout to make that gamble, I suppose.