2012 Free Agency Wish List

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Don't you think it's time to turn the page with LL? He's had a half of one good season. The guy can't stay healthy and even when he is I certainly don't put him up there with the top safties.

It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.

Landry's talent was never in question. He's a total knucklehead, though. He just ignored the recommendation of a renowned surgeon and refused surgery on that achilles tendon... the same thing he did last offseason, and we all see how that worked. I guess the franchise tag wouldn't be terrible to use on him since there's no long term issue.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Landry's talent was never in question. He's a total knucklehead, though. He just ignored the recommendation of a renowned surgeon and refused surgery on that achilles tendon... the same thing he did last offseason, and we all see how that worked. I guess the franchise tag wouldn't be terrible to use on him since there's no long term issue.

My thing is even if you judge Landry on what is (a guy with a bad achillies), and not what can be, he's still worth about $5-$8 million a year and starts for every team.

You just don't want to tie up signing bonus money in an injury liability, just because of the way SB money affects the cap. Based on that, the tag is the best of both worlds: you get him below his market value, and you don't have a commitment to him beyond 2012.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

My thing is even if you judge Landry on what is (a guy with a bad achillies), and not what can be, he's still worth about $5-$8 million a year and starts for every team.

You just don't want to tie up signing bonus money in an injury liability, just because of the way SB money affects the cap. Based on that, the tag is the best of both worlds: you get him below his market value, and you don't have a commitment to him beyond 2012.

I agree. It's just frustrating because we all know his ceiling is a top 2 or 3 safety in the NFL- we've seen it. But he can't stay healthy... so now he has his first full normal offseason under Shanahan, he has a great opportunity to get fully healthy and have the surgery, and he just blows off the doctors orders.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree. It's just frustrating because we all know his ceiling is a top 2 or 3 safety in the NFL- we've seen it. But he can't stay healthy... so now he has his first full normal offseason under Shanahan, he has a great opportunity to get fully healthy and have the surgery, and he just blows off the doctors orders.

At the risk of being crass, Mike Shanahan is getting $7 million per year from Dan Snyder to deal with players like Landry being difficult, not to get rid of every player who is being difficult.

If changing the culture simply meant getting rid of the source be it Haynesworth/McNabb/Landry, and then taking your lumps on the field on Sundays, then there's about 150 people in the world who could have done that on a salary of $1.2 million a year.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.

I say tag Davis and let Landry test the market. Landry is going into his 6th year and has really played dominant ball for half a season. I just don't think the guy is a student of the game. He doesn't work at his craft so to me he's never going to truly reach his potential.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I say tag Davis and let Landry test the market. Landry is going into his 6th year and has really played dominant ball for half a season. I just don't think the guy is a student of the game. He doesn't work at his craft so to me he's never going to truly reach his potential.

Which, yeah, that's fine with me.

You don't have much of a defense without an effective Landry (though I would argue that Landry was easily our best safety last year, even considering that he played a half-season at 80%), and letting him walk for the $6 million of salary cap room he frees up sure seems like a gamble that we're going to get it done on offense this year. The head coach is an offensive guy, so he has the clout to make that gamble, I suppose.