I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

[MTK]

MS: You think you can win in DC?

PM: I'm Peyton F'ing Manning, what do you think?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

MS: You think you can win in DC?

PM: I'm Peyton F'ing Manning, what do you think?

Speaking of this, Rich Tandler just posted this, which I completely agree with...

Rich Tandler
I've said this before but if Mike/Kyle Shanahan can't figure out a way to make things work with P. Manning both should be fired now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Speaking of this, Rich Tandler just posted this, which I completely agree with...

Rich Tandler
I've said this before but if Mike/Kyle Shanahan can't figure out a way to make things work with P. Manning both should be fired now.

Definitely agree with Tandler.

I know some people are leery of making a move like this because of what happened with McNabb, but Manning is certainly no McNabb.

Manning's work ethic and leadership are off the charts compared to McNabb, so much so it's not even worth discussing.

Plus all it would take is money to get Manning, no picks.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Definitely agree with Tandler.

I know some people are leery of making a move like this because of what happened with McNabb, but Manning is certainly no McNabb.

Manning's work ethic and leadership are off the charts compared to McNabb, so much so it's not even worth discussing.

Plus all it would take is money to get Manning, no picks.

Of course Peyton doesn't come w/the issues McNabb did, but I think the McNabb analogy is still relevant, if only because both 1) are old, 2) been only w/one team/system, and 3) the skins have a rep for such signings not working.

In addition to that, PM has health issues. I agree w/Theisman on this one, I actually think signing Peyton is a pretty big risk for Shanny even if he's declared fully healthy. If he could draft his future qb in 1st or 2nd & sign Petyon it would give him something to fall back on. I hope Smoot's info proves true & we are not interested.

[Alvin Walton]

New link from Rotoworld.
Hope it already has not been posted here.......

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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Of course Peyton doesn't come w/the issues McNabb did, but I think the McNabb analogy is still relevant, if only because both 1) are old, 2) been only w/one team/system, and 3) the skins have a rep for such signings not working.

In addition to that, PM has health issues. I agree w/Theisman on this one, I actually think signing Peyton is a pretty big risk for Shanny even if he's declared fully healthy. If he could draft his future qb in 1st or 2nd & sign Petyon it would give him something to fall back on. I hope Smoot's info proves true & we are not interested.

It's old info I had, or maybe better said wrong info. Yeah, I can admit it. I didn't think it was genuine but now that I know more information, and know who the catalyst is behind it, I can comfortably say that this isn't just a smokescreen. The interest is sincere and the feeling is mutual. I had heard that Mike Shanahan was against it, but that was (it turns out) highly exaggerated.

Will he sign here? I don't know. I still think the Jets are a very strong possibility...and Mark Sanchez to the Redskins!

But seriously, I don't know if we'll sign Manning but I've accepted that it's very possible. Actually, I love the idea of a healthy Manning. So long as we add one or two young QBs. That was always my problem with the McNabb move.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Definitely agree with Tandler.

I know some people are leery of making a move like this because of what happened with McNabb, but Manning is certainly no McNabb.

Manning's work ethic and leadership are off the charts compared to McNabb, so much so it's not even worth discussing.

Plus all it would take is money to get Manning, no picks.

Manning is not McNabb but the situation is similar. When they got Mcnabb they seemed content with that and did nothing to secure the position long term...and then when it didn't work they tossed Rex in there. I hope they learned their lesson and think beyond just the 2012 starter...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by celts32

Manning is not McNabb but the situation is similar. When they got Mcnabb they seemed content with that and did nothing to secure the position long term...and then when it didn't work they tossed Rex in there. I hope they learned their lesson and think beyond just the 2012 starter...

Similar situation but completely different players. I would definitely hope the plan would include developing a rookie behind him.

[DC Tailgate]

What I want to know is, would Manning have the same freedom he did in Indy, if he comes here? Shanahan, from what I remember didn't give McNabb the freedom to change plays much if at all (can't remember).

I'm all for Manning assuming he's 100% or close to it because a 50% Manning is better than a 100% Grossman. Just don't want to see the guy get paralyzed on the field.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by DC Tailgate

What I want to know is, would Manning have the same freedom he did in Indy, if he comes here? Shanahan, from what I remember didn't give McNabb the freedom to change plays much if at all (can't remember).

I'm all for Manning assuming he's 100% or close to it because a 50% Manning is better than a 100% Grossman. Just don't want to see the guy get paralyzed on the field.

I really don't think MS is that dumb to handcuff a guy like Manning.

[skinsguy]

Guys, this situation is different because from the "rumors" we're hearing, it's not just going to be Peyton Manning or bust. The Redskins are going to pick up a developmental guy who will hopefully be ready to take over once Manning is done. Let's say best case scenario (yes I know "Realistic" Redskins fans don't like to think in best case scenario) is that Manning can last another 4 years. That's 4 years that a guy like Tannehill/Foles/Cousins can learn the entire process and be ready to play. Even if it's just a couple of seasons, a guy like Ryan Tannehill could probably be ready to come in and lead this team.

Yes, I understand the McNabb comparison. The truth is, McNabb under performed and the rest of the team (especially defense) was going through a major transition, so it wasn't a good situation all around. However, this time, the defense is more solid, the offensive line has improved (even though there is still a lot of room for improvement) and there is a lot of youth at wide receiver and running back to help Manning out. This is a much different situation than it is with McNabb. I will also say if the Shanahans can't be successful with Manning, yes, they should be fired. Yes, I know it's a gamble, but the Redskins have to have a proven leader. And I've said it before, a 70% Peyton Manning is better than most 100% NFL starting quarterbacks.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Definitely agree with Tandler.

I know some people are leery of making a move like this because of what happened with McNabb, but Manning is certainly no McNabb.

Manning's work ethic and leadership are off the charts compared to McNabb, so much so it's not even worth discussing.

Plus all it would take is money to get Manning, no picks.

I agree, there's no comparision between PM and DM. It seems to me that signing PM is pretty much risk free. Like Matty says, it's only a matter of $ and how the contract is structured. The cherry on top is that no picks need to be given away.