Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

RG III would have to be a lot better than Elway, Favre, Young, Marino, to to win with our team as it stands right now. We basically put all our eggs in one basket ala Shuler way back when. Thing is if RG III is a dud, we don't have a Frerotte or Trent Green to at least keep us somewhat competitve. Beck and Grossman suck!

But sometimes you have to go all in. RGIII is not going to be a dud. And the redskins finally have a potentially great qb. In the nfl, a great qb and a great defensive line may be all you need. It could be argued that- that's what the giants had this year.

It appeared to be true- Shanahan would be fired if he didn't pick up RGIII or Manning- or by some miracle another qb would have been able to play well enough for redskins to get into the playoffs.

What would you have done in Shanahans place?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

What would you have done in Shanahans place?

I would have lost my job after the Bills game.

[Hail to the Redskins]

FATE.. and our typical poor luck caused the 3 1st Round Picks to go...

In my thinking... there are 3 unique factors that FORCED the Skins into 3-1st Round Picks:

A) The Browns - We just HAPPENED (our luck) to be competing with a team who had 2 1st round picks when we are trying to trade up. Bad coincidence... this drove the asking price up.

B) Peyton Manning - Apparently, Peyton Manning was not going to be a backup/fallback option and our whole FO & Staff knew we NEEDED one of the "big 3 (Luck, RGII, Manning)"... this drove our buying point up.

C) WR Position - We just happen to be shopping for a top-teir FA WR at the same time as this scenario is playing out. This means we had to make a deal early, before free agency starts. Hard to sell a WR on a team with no QB... The flip-side is, the cost goes up BECAUSE free agency hasn't started, with FA QB options landing with teams competing for the #2 pick.

Ouch. 3 bad coincidences that just happened to hit us as this trade played out.

I say... hey... they realized they had to do what they had to do to get their guy. I hate losing the 2nd round pick the most, though... but... hey...

WE HAVE A REAL HOPE AT THE QB POSITION FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LOOOOOONNNNGGG TIME!!! LET'S CELEBRATE THAT, NOT WHAT THE FUTURE PICKS "MAY" HAVE BEEN!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

But sometimes you have to go all in. RGIII is not going to be a dud. And the redskins finally have a potentially great qb. In the nfl, a great qb and a great defensive line may be all you need. It could be argued that- that's what the giants had this year.

It appeared to be true- Shanahan would be fired if he didn't pick up RGIII or Manning- or by some miracle another qb would have been able to play well enough for redskins to get into the playoffs.

What would you have done in Shanahans place?

Instead of giving up 3 #1's and a #2, I'd have stayed at 6 and taken Tannehill.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Instead of giving up 3 #1's and a #2, I'd have stayed at 6 and taken Tannehill.

In all honesty, I happen to prefer what the Redskins actually did to taking Tannehill at six.

But I have to be right about BOTH Griffin AND Tannehill. If not right about both, then I am wrong about preferring this trade.

If Griffin isn't the clear no. 1 on the depth chart in 2014 for whatever reason and Tannehill is starting in this league, this will be the worst trade in modern NFL history, and what Shanahan will ultimately be remembered for, instead of the super bowls.

So yeah, this is very much going all-in. Recklessly all-in.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

In all honesty, I happen to prefer what the Redskins actually did to taking Tannehill at six.

But I have to be right about BOTH Griffin AND Tannehill. If not right about both, then I am wrong about preferring this trade.

If Griffin isn't the clear no. 1 on the depth chart in 2014 for whatever reason and Tannehill is starting in this league, this will be the worst trade in modern NFL history, and what Shanahan will ultimately be remembered for, instead of the super bowls.

So yeah, this is very much going all-in. Recklessly all-in.

Agreed. Just a bit too reckless for my taste right now. Like I said, Griffin had better be solid gold. Forget clear #1 by 2014; we'd better be talking Pro Bowl in 2014.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Agreed. Just a bit too reckless for my taste right now. Like I said, Griffin had better be solid gold. Forget clear #1 by 2014; we'd better be talking Pro Bowl in 2014.

On the bright side, at least we have higher expectations for this quarterback than "worth two weeks of Doug Dutch."

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

On the bright side, at least we have higher expectations for this quarterback than "worth two weeks of Doug Dutch."

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Agreed. Just a bit too reckless for my taste right now. Like I said, Griffin had better be solid gold. Forget clear #1 by 2014; we'd better be talking Pro Bowl in 2014.

For me I think RG3 will either be a mega bust or a mega star. I don't really see him being an average qb in the NFL. He will either be incredible at everything he does (which I think has a decent chance of happening) or he will be incredibly bad at everything he does. So if he's incredibly good, we might be talking about him being a Pro Bowler sooner than 2014. I expect the Shannies to put him in a position to succeed. For the price they paid he will be the day one starter, no questions asked.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

In all honesty, I happen to prefer what the Redskins actually did to taking Tannehill at six.

But I have to be right about BOTH Griffin AND Tannehill. If not right about both, then I am wrong about preferring this trade.

If Griffin isn't the clear no. 1 on the depth chart in 2014 for whatever reason and Tannehill is starting in this league, this will be the worst trade in modern NFL history, and what Shanahan will ultimately be remembered for, instead of the super bowls.

So yeah, this is very much going all-in. Recklessly all-in.

C'mon Tripp .... I knew u rain on our parade ... Lol. Whatever. I'm so f'ing happy

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

C'mon Tripp .... I knew u rain on our parade ... Lol. Whatever. I'm so f'ing happy

Hey, you're welcome to tell me I'm wrong.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

But sometimes you have to go all in. RGIII is not going to be a dud. And the redskins finally have a potentially great qb. In the nfl, a great qb and a great defensive line may be all you need. It could be argued that- that's what the giants had this year.

It appeared to be true- Shanahan would be fired if he didn't pick up RGIII or Manning- or by some miracle another qb would have been able to play well enough for redskins to get into the playoffs.

What would you have done in Shanahans place?

Going all in isn't the style that BA and Shanny started off with in their first two drafts. Get more picks, draft smart, draft needs. RG III right now might be akin to Vick in ATL. He will be fun to watch, but with a less talented supporting cast. Face it you go all in and lose, you lose for awhile. What happened when we drafted Shuler, many thought he was a sure thing also way back then. The Shuler debacle killed this team for over a decade. We still haven't found a franchise QB!! I really hope I am eating crow this time in 2013, but if I am not Holy Shit, you might be looking at another 2-4 years of crappy win loss records.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Going all in isn't the style that BA and Shanny started off with in their first two drafts. Get more picks, draft smart, draft needs. RG III right now might be akin to Vick in ATL. He will be fun to watch, but with a less talented supporting cast. Face it you go all in and lose, you lose for awhile. What happened when we drafted Shuler, many thought he was a sure thing also way back then. The Shuler debacle killed this team for over a decade. We still haven't found a franchise QB!! I really hope I am eating crow this time in 2013, but if I am not Holy Shit, you might be looking at another 2-4 years of crappy win loss records.

People doubted Cam Newton. He did okay. Stop hatting hatter.