Cousins Value Skyrockets,Jets Fans Want Him!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Cousins has won two games for us, I think his value has gone way up.
I'm not ready to shop him but I think he's worth a second rounder right now.

I disagree. No one is going to give up a #2 for a QB for whom there is so little tape. Captain Kirk needs more mileage before he can fetch a high pick.

[JoeRedskin]

I am just not seeing the need/rush to trade him for anything less than a mind blowing multi pick offer. I am talking H.Walker type offer. ... and before you start, I know no one would do so.

He is simply to valuable to us. A very good, dirt cheap back at the most important position on the field. We trade him, RGIII goes down and we turn to ... Rex? Can you say f'd up the A?

A starting safety (Reid) for someone who may be one of the top 2 or 3 No.2 QB's in the league? No thanks - not unless we are talking about the second coming of S.Taylor. Given the style of play of our starting QB, having someone like Cousins is a must.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

A starting safety (Reid) for someone who may be one of the top 2 or 3 No.2 QB's in the league? No thanks - not unless we are talking about the second coming of S.Taylor.

Watch some of Reid's highlights, he reminds me of ST, to a lesser degree.

[44ever]

Im not buying that Kirk cant fetch a 2nd. Lets not forget he went as a 4th round pick with the Skins with (((ZERO))) NFL tape. Kirk then came into a hot game, cold of the bench and lit it up! I think teams like the Jets (who have both a 1st and 2nd available) would be willing to give a 2nd for a QB that has obvious potential as a starter in the NFL over what they can grab in the draft. Unless they are willing to gamble with Sanchez...

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Im not buying that Kirk cant fetch a 2nd. Lets not forget he went as a 4th round pick with the Skins with (((ZERO))) NFL tape. Kirk then came into a hot game, cold of the bench and lit it up! I think teams like the Jets (who have both a 1st and 2nd available) would be willing to give a 2nd for a QB that has obvious potential as a starter in the NFL over what they can grab in the draft. Unless they are willing to gamble with Sanchez...

He also came in cold off the bench and threw two crucial INTs down the stretch against Atlanta, which was probably the difference in the game.

Keep him, grow him and maintain a solid #1 and #2 for a few years at least...

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

He also came in cold off the bench and threw two crucial INTs down the stretch against Atlanta, which was probably the difference in the game.

Keep him, grow him and maintain a solid #1 and #2 for a few years at least...

KC is a solid back up and very affordable due to the new CBA if we attempt to trade him we would have to pay a veteran back up likely more than we are currently paying KC. Some people forget we still have an 18 million entanglement next year. I don't think we can afford to pay a more expensive less quality back up.

[SBXVII]

He signed a 3 year deal right. Hold him for 2 1/2 years then look to trade him. You want to get rid of someone lets get rid of RG1 and pick up an undrafted QB to help develope.

Unless Andy Reid and the Chiefs offer an extremely high draft pick, but I can tell you they won't offer their #1 pick this year. I might bite if they offered a 2nd this year and a 3rd the year after. Again I doubt that happens.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

He signed a 3 year deal right. Hold him for 2 1/2 years then look to trade him. You want to get rid of someone lets get rid of RG1 and pick up an undrafted QB to help develope.

Unless Andy Reid and the Chiefs offer an extremely high draft pick, but I can tell you they won't offer their #1 pick this year. I might bite if they offered a 2nd this year and a 3rd the year after. Again I doubt that happens.

This post makes good sense. My post was hypothetically speaking, if we were to trade him. Cousins is excellent backup insurance and very inexpensive to keep at this point.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

He signed a 3 year deal right. Hold him for 2 1/2 years then look to trade him. You want to get rid of someone lets get rid of RG1 and pick up an undrafted QB to help develope.

Unless Andy Reid and the Chiefs offer an extremely high draft pick, but I can tell you they won't offer their #1 pick this year. I might bite if they offered a 2nd this year and a 3rd the year after. Again I doubt that happens.

Rookies contracts are now 4 years. Cousins has 3 more years after this year left on his rookie contract (Same as RG3).

I agree on holding onto him for at least another year if not longer.

[Gary84Clark]

I say pick another QB for value if they are the highest player on the board. I like that strategy.

[JoeRedskin]

Any thoughts of trading KC now should pretty much be tossed aside unless a Hershel Walker type deal is offered. Given Griffin's injury and style of play, KC is just about the second most valuable guy on the roster and certainly in the top 10.

Draft KC's replacement this year and again next year if we must then trade him.

[Chico23231]

Concussion, possible torn whatever, couldnt finish a couple games, knee brace. We better not trade Cousins, but develop him intensely.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

At this point, my feeling is we should keep Cousins through the end of his contract unless/until Griffin proves he can play through an entire season without injury. The way Griffin plays, and the way he stubbornly refuses to let doctors/coaches know how he's really feeling, is very risky. Griffin needs to understand that the best thing he can do for the team is protect himself long-term. If he's hurt, he needs to have the humility to recognize the team can win without him and leave the game to protect his health.

I honestly think unless he accepts the fact he's not superman, eventually hes going play hurt and then have a career ending injury, and it could happen during his rookie contract. We might need Cousins to be our long-term quarterback if Griffin doesnt learn his limits. No way should we trade him.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

At this point, my feeling is we should keep Cousins through the end of his contract unless/until Griffin proves he can play through an entire season without injury. The way Griffin plays, and the way he stubbornly refuses to let doctors/coaches know how he's really feeling, is very risky. Griffin needs to understand that the best thing he can do for the team is protect himself long-term. If he's hurt, he needs to have the humility to recognize the team can win without him and leave the game to protect his health.

I honestly think unless he accepts the fact he's not superman, eventually hes going play hurt and then have a career ending injury, and it could happen during his rookie contract. We might need Cousins to be our long-term quarterback if Griffin doesnt learn his limits. No way should we trade him.

So you expect an NFL quarterback to admit to being injured and risk losing his job? Look what happened to Drew Bledsoe, Manning, and Alex Smith. It should never be on the player to admit whether or not he is injured. Favre once said he never admitted to being injured because he did not want to give another quarterback the same opportunity he was given and potentially lose his job. It is never on the player, coaches and medical staff should be the one saying we have to take you out.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by donofriose

So you expect an NFL quarterback to admit to being injured and risk losing his job? Look what happened to Drew Bledsoe, Manning, and Alex Smith.

LOL. Every single player you compared RGIII to was an older player who had been playing for teams that had drafted younger guys to eventually replace them. If there is one player in the NFL who should not have to worry at all about his job security, its RGIII. He made the pro-bowl in his rookie year for a team that mortgaged their future to trade up and draft him. The skins are 100% committed to RGIII as the future. He knows this.

It should never be on the player to admit whether or not he is injured. Favre once said he never admitted to being injured because he did not want to give another quarterback the same opportunity he was given and potentially lose his job. It is never on the player, coaches and medical staff should be the one saying we have to take you out.

This is probably just about the dumbest thing you could possibly say. Unless a player is bleeding from an open wound or suffering from obvious symptoms that are easy to diagnose (like a severe concussion), the only way coaches medical staff can understand a players condition is if the player tells them. there's no portable MRI machine on the field. All the medical staff can tell is that RGIII is limping a bit. If he's not honest about how he feels and how bad the pain is, they can't make an accurate assessment of him.