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Old 03-15-2017, 12:49 PM   #1
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Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

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Three teams have asked and three teams have been rebuffed. He's not getting traded.
No I agree, and after hearing the podcast I believe a deal is done verbally already.
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Old 03-15-2017, 12:55 PM   #2
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No I agree, and after hearing the podcast I believe a deal is done verbally already.
I didn't read that from the podcast. And if a deal was done verbally it'd be done on paper a few days later.

I do think coming out of that conversation (referenced in the podcast) there is a mutual understanding that the Redskins intend to negotiate in good faith for a long term deal.

I think they'll get it done by July 14, but there's still a lot of dancing that remains.
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Old 03-15-2017, 12:55 PM   #3
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Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

At this point get it fucking done. Going into next year and to be tagged again is retarded at best from an Organization stand point. Simply retarded
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Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

I'n not sure that everyone here realizes how much the situation with Kirk has changed since he signed his franchise tag contract. Now, the Redskins can trade him to any other NFL team without his permission. The Redskins have no obligation to allow talks between Kirk and the other team to work out a long-term deal. They can simply trade Kirk and his one year $24M contract to another team as long as the other team is willing to take on his contract as it now stands. I don't know how realistic such a deal would be but the Skins could do it if they wished to do so.

It looks like the Skins want a long-term deal with Kirk but if the situation were to change they could trade him in a New York minute to a willing trade partner.

I apologize if I seem to you to be acting like a know-it-all or Captain Obvious.
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I'n not sure that everyone here realizes how much the situation with Kirk has changed since he signed his franchise tag contract. Now, the Redskins can trade him to any other NFL team without his permission. The Redskins have no obligation to allow talks between Kirk and the other team to work out a long-term deal. They can simply trade Kirk and his one year $24M contract to another team as long as the other team is willing to take on his contract as it now stands. I don't know how realistic such a deal would be but the Skins could do it if they wished to do so.

It looks like the Skins want a long-term deal with Kirk but if the situation were to change, they could trade him in a New York minute to a willing trade partner.

I apologize if I seem to you to be acting like a know-it-all or Captain Obvious.
Yeah they could, in theory, but nobody's going to give up significant trade compensation for a player unless they would be willing to sign a long term deal.

There's this silly notion that maybe the Browns would trade for him and then tag him next year. Ridiculous. Why would they pay to take on a headache like that?

He's not getting traded.
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"There's this silly notion that maybe the Browns would trade for him and then tag him next year. Ridiculous. Why would they pay to take on a headache like that?"

Because it's the Browns. I don't see him getting traded anywhere, but that would be the 2nd most likely spot as of now. They have cap space galore to roll over next year if they have to tag him again.
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If I was Cleveland and traded for him I'd tell him right upfront that he's getting tagged again next year too. So you're our QB for sure for the next 2 years at least.

But trading is steep, if I was them I'm drafting best QB available at #12. You walk away with Myles Garrett, and a possible franchise qb. I'd say that's a good 1st round.
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This board's intolerance for ambiguity is revealing. Too emotional, too reactionary.
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This board's intolerance for ambiguity is revealing. Too emotional, too reactionary.
Not me! I feel strongly both ways.
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Someone's going to have to blow the Redskins away with a trade offer. Kind of like an RG3 type of trade. Then of course agree to a deal, just not going to happen.
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Re: Cousins 3.0, he's going to sign the franchise tag

Kirk is losing some fan base with his stubborn ways of not committing to this team. When asked by Adam S. "Do you want to be a redskin long term? " he said "I don't know the answer to that, I have to keep an open mind because things change in this league fast"... Dude just answer yes or no! He's like that one GF that just can't decide on what she wants to do with her life.. I like Kirk but man this gets old.

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Kirk is losing some fan base with his stubborn ways of not committing to this team. When asked by Adam S. "Do you want to be a redskin long term? " he said "I don't know the answer to that, I have to keep an open mind because things change in this league fast"... Dude just answer yes or no! He's like that one GF that just can't decide on what she wants to do with her life.. I like Kirk but man this gets old.

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If he answered that he would lose all of his leverage in contract negotiations, so Kirk answered exactly the way he should have.
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Kirk is losing some fan base with his stubborn ways of not committing to this team. When asked by Adam S. "Do you want to be a redskin long term? " he said "I don't know the answer to that, I have to keep an open mind because things change in this league fast"... Dude just answer yes or no! He's like that one GF that just can't decide on what she wants to do with her life.. I like Kirk but man this gets old.

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He's just being honest. Shouldn't we be more frustrated with the team not committing to him?
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He's just being honest. Shouldn't we be more frustrated with the team not committing to him?
I really don't understand why the Skins haven't put a decent offer out there for him. Put the ball in his court, make KC explain why he's not signing a fair deal. Give him a good guarantee 22-24M with escalators that allow him to be the highest paid QB in the league, if he earns it.
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I really don't understand why the Skins haven't put a decent offer out there for him. Put the ball in his court, make KC explain why he's not signing a fair deal. Give him a good guarantee 22-24M with escalators that allow him to be the highest paid QB in the league, if he earns it.
That always seems to be the standard MO around the league, not sure why the Skins can't follow either. It just tells me they don't think he's elite or worth big money.
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