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Old 12-04-2012, 02:27 PM   #1
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A month or two ago, i think Smoot said/implied there was mutual interest to varying degrees with several teams and it was all but garaunteed he'd be somewhere else next year. I really hope there's some way we can keep him. He and RGIII are obviously working well together and i think switching offensive coordinators would only stunt the offense. I can't imagine someone else coming in and doing as good a job as Kyle.

I guess it really depends on how long Mike plans to coach. If we really just wants to coach out the rest of his contract, then i could see snyder/allen convincing Kyle to stay if they promised making him the HC when his dad retires. If Mike has no intention of retiring anytime soon, then Kyle is gone... and i'm worried he'd go to Philly or Dallas.
I'm more worried about Roman or Gruden going to Philly or Dallas. And I still think it's basically irrelevent who schemes our offense. We have the most dynamic QB in the league right now and plenty of talent surrounding him. If this regime can get the defense right (top 10 say) we'll be a contender for the SB, but that's the big ? at this point.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:30 PM   #2
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I'm more worried about Roman or Gruden going to Philly or Dallas. And I still think it's basically irrelevent who schemes our offense. We have the most dynamic QB in the league right now and plenty of talent surrounding him. If this regime can get the defense right (top 10 say) we'll be a contender for the SB, but that's the big ? at this point.
i ain't scurred, neither of those teams has a griff.

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Old 12-04-2012, 02:33 PM   #3
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Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread

What are the odds that dally drafts that QB up for the Heisman this year to copy us.....

Sounds like a sure fire Jarrah move to me.
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:32 PM   #4
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I'm more worried about Roman or Gruden going to Philly or Dallas. And I still think it's basically irrelevent who schemes our offense. We have the most dynamic QB in the league right now and plenty of talent surrounding him. If this regime can get the defense right (top 10 say) we'll be a contender for the SB, but that's the big ? at this point.
Irrelevant unless it's a failed play...then it's Kyle's fault right?
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:55 PM   #5
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Irrelevant unless it's a failed play...then it's Kyle's fault right?
Kid is never going to give any of the Shanahans credit for anything. Super Bowls? Nope. One of top offenses in league on two different teams? Nope.


It's never ending with this guy. It's all RGIII out there. He's calling the plays. He designed the scheme. He's blocking. He's catching his own passes. Nope. Nobody else. Just RGIII.


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Old 12-04-2012, 02:56 PM   #6
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Irrelevant unless it's a failed play...then it's Kyle's fault right?
I thought the screens were bad calls themselves last night but otherwise it was a solid game for offense. My point, and I think it's obvious, is there's a lot of ways you could scheme/coach this offense to win. Does that make sense?

Specific to Kyle the play-calling has improved over the last three games. Before that play-calling was bad to avg. I realize you'll never agree with this, but I think the results spoke for themselves.

Along those lines, among all the guys I watch/talk football with the most memorable Redskins play this season is sending RG3 out to catch a pass against Ryan Clark. That play was a microcosm of the season up to three weeks ago. The play-calling/coaching has improved. It seems pretty simple to me.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:56 AM   #7
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Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread

Rants aside (thank you for your indulgence) ... Has anyone noticed that, now, many teams have adopted that "college crap" Pistol Offense set? CRed made the comment to me last night and I have since wondered if other teams were using it prior to this year. It does seem to have sprung up out of nowhere this season. Were Denver and Carolina using it last year?
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:26 AM   #8
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Rants aside (thank you for your indulgence) ... Has anyone noticed that, now, many teams have adopted that "college crap" Pistol Offense set? CRed made the comment to me last night and I have since wondered if other teams were using it prior to this year. It does seem to have sprung up out of nowhere this season. Were Denver and Carolina using it last year?
Carolina did use the pistol last year. However, their use of the pistol is and was restrained compared to us. They use the pistol as a change-of-pace package with a limited number of plays.

Kyle has built a virtually complete offense around the pistol. It is impressive to see the variety of concepts that Kyle has worked into his pistol: stretch runs, read options, sprint options, classic drop-back passes, and play action. As such, Kyle has created a new animal that the NFL has never seen.

Three cheers for Kyle!
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Carolina did use the pistol last year. However, their use of the pistol is and was restrained compared to us. They use the pistol as a change-of-pace package with a limited number of plays.

Kyle has built a virtually complete offense around the pistol. It is impressive to see the variety of concepts that Kyle has worked into his pistol: stretch runs, read options, sprint options, classic drop-back passes, and play action. As such, Kyle has created a new animal that the NFL has never seen.

Three cheers for Kyle!
should fans start a petition to keep Kyle?
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should fans start a petition to keep Kyle?
Fire up the billboards on the side of the bus!
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:28 PM   #11
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Carolina did use the pistol last year. However, their use of the pistol is and was restrained compared to us. They use the pistol as a change-of-pace package with a limited number of plays.

Kyle has built a virtually complete offense around the pistol. It is impressive to see the variety of concepts that Kyle has worked into his pistol: stretch runs, read options, sprint options, classic drop-back passes, and play action. As such, Kyle has created a new animal that the NFL has never seen.

Three cheers for Kyle!
The only complaint I would have about Kyle is some of his calls really leave you scratching your head thinking, "wtf?" But the good part is that a lot of the time the opposing d-line is also doing the same thing. He can get them so confused it's funny. I mean laugh out loud funny. A lot of times the DE's have no idea what's happening.
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:58 AM   #12
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Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread

The new plan is have Griffin make Special Teams question what we are going to do on extra points :cheeky-sm

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Old 12-04-2012, 10:01 AM   #13
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Re: Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread

Really excited about the future. Look, I'd still like to see some tinkering with the offense and God knows we need some help on defense. But this team took a huge step in the right direction last night.

I was watching post-game on Comcast. You could just hear it in their voices and see it in their eyes. They've bought in. They believe they can win now. Trent Williams in particular...man, you mention RGIII's name and he almost gets emotional. Not kidding. He's all..we can't let them touch Robert. Robert this and Robert that. I think he takes RG's success personally being the anchor to the offensive line. Garcon another one. He's like two different people. Intense and mouthy on the field and very humble during interviews.

It's just good to see the talent and the attitude finally catch up with each other and watch the results on the field. So happy for the team, the fans, and the city. God knows we've been long suffering.
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After we beat Baltimore we will really be in the drivers seat. Dallas will lose to cincy and the giants will lose to N.O
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:12 AM   #15
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RG3 ran the read option to perfection, completely neutering the Giants defensive ends, who are among the best in the league. Just wait until Kyle adds more wrinkles like the bootleg and no huddle to the regular arsenal. Griffin is a D coordinator's worst nightmare, and I love watching defenses on their heels trying to deal with him.
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