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Old 02-25-2013, 04:39 PM   #1
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

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Old 02-26-2013, 12:06 AM   #2
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*rolls eyes*


I'll believe it when I see it. Danny is blowing smoke. I think it's a shame he went full out suing some shitty newspaper for writing a negative article about him, yet doesn't do jack shit when real action is needed. He doesn't have the balls to open pandoras box. Talking and acting tough to beat reporters is one thing, it's entirely another matter when it's people with equal or higher clout than him.
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I'll believe it when I see it. Danny is blowing smoke. I think it's a shame he went full out suing some shitty newspaper for writing a negative article about him, yet doesn't do jack shit when real action is needed. He doesn't have the balls to open pandoras box. Talking and acting tough to beat reporters is one thing, it's entirely another matter when it's people with equal or higher clout than him.
Yeah I'll believe it when I see it also but he can file the paperwork, put a hold on Free Agency, and still decide if he wants to proceed or drop everything. and all he would have done is hold up Free Agency.

or he could file a law suit and the owners can call his bluff and see if he continues with the suit. The big issue the owners don't want is for the Department of Labor or Department of Justice to get involved or to take away the owners freedoms they now have. That alone should be scaring the other owners and making them think twice.
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Its just as detrimental to Snyder as it is to the other owners that the books and messages from that year stay hidden. If you decide to "stick it to the man", are you going to do that by putting dynamite in your own house and blowing it up?

I dont fault him for bluffing, but I dont expect the NFL to do anything other than call that bluff. And I expect Danny to get the bomb squad in there to clear the dynamite before it goes off.

As much as people keep saying that hes not afraid to sue, hes also not afraid of making money. I think the making money wins out in the end.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:21 AM   #5
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Its just as detrimental to Snyder as it is to the other owners that the books and messages from that year stay hidden. If you decide to "stick it to the man", are you going to do that by putting dynamite in your own house and blowing it up?

I dont fault him for bluffing, but I dont expect the NFL to do anything other than call that bluff. And I expect Danny to get the bomb squad in there to clear the dynamite before it goes off.

As much as people keep saying that hes not afraid to sue, hes also not afraid of making money. I think the making money wins out in the end.
It's interesting that this comes out after the combine. Can you imagine how much lobbying and politicking the Redskins were doing. I would guess that they were planting seeds of how a legal strategy would play out as well. Even the threat of a lawsuit is a pretty big stick in a fraternity of 32 powerful men and women. I wonder if they got a sense at the combine that this strategy would work, or if it's pure throw everything at the wall and see what sticks time.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:41 AM   #6
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Its just as detrimental to Snyder as it is to the other owners that the books and messages from that year stay hidden. If you decide to "stick it to the man", are you going to do that by putting dynamite in your own house and blowing it up?

I dont fault him for bluffing, but I dont expect the NFL to do anything other than call that bluff. And I expect Danny to get the bomb squad in there to clear the dynamite before it goes off.

As much as people keep saying that hes not afraid to sue, hes also not afraid of making money. I think the making money wins out in the end.
Lets look at worst case scenarios....

1- All the owners end up hating Snyder. Not voting for his ideas later.
2- Department of Labor or Justice get involved.
3- The NFL not being exempt from labor laws.

I honestly can't fathom anything else, but I'm sure the owners are happy to be exempt from some of the labor laws and being able to do business as they please. I figure the worst that can happen is the NFL would lose that freedom and would have to do business like all other businesses and unions. That alone would go a long way in keeping both sides more honest.

So for me to weight if its worth it to go nuclear and possibly get our CAP space back.... I'd have to say yes it's worth it. Personally I think there needs to be someone keeping an eye on both sides that has no interest, someone who is not swayed to lean towards the owners in judgement (Dotty), and someone to make sure a fair punishment is delt as well as punishing everyone involved. In this case, yeah maybe the Skins do deserve a punishment although I don't agree with it, but certainly the other owners deserve to be punished for unfair practices against the NFLPA.
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That link discusses 2014.

He does a very thorough analysis of the 2013 cap situation here:
http://fanspeak.com/washingtonredski...-cap-for-2013/
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Httr 24/7 mentions that everyone blames Mara, when it was Jeffrey Lurie of the Fecal matters that started this mess.
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While we are bashing the Mara's, why not:

http://www.lohud.com/article/20130225/NEWS02/302240017
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While we are bashing the Mara's, why not:

http://www.lohud.com/article/20130225/NEWS02/302240017
That's a funny story; seems like a really nice family. I did a lot of partying on Fairfield Beach Road where this incident occurred; lots of good times, lots of pissed off locals, never saw anyone get his skull cracked open with a bottle though.
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Httr 24/7 mentions that everyone blames Mara, when it was Jeffrey Lurie of the Fecal matters that started this mess.
It doesn't matter who started it. The majority of the league agreed to it. Goodell signed off on it. Mara dished it out.... then ran his mouth about how we got lucky and should have been docked worse. Shaft them all. Hold up Free Agency. Scare the crap out of the league that they could possibly lose their freedom and might fall under federal regulations and possibly be forced to pay both teams as well as the NFLPA a monitary sum to include damages.

Right now yeah the league would win, why? cause of unwritten agreements, rights signed away, and autonomy. Let it get to the right court where none of these apply and see how the league colluded against the players (illegal), bribed the NFLPA to agree to the punishements or lose money (illegal), punished both teams with out taking the topic to the owners meeting first and allowing the two teams to explain why they did what they did and why they should not be punished.
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Question, so would this just be the Skins or would the Cowboys join the Skins?
Unless it had a chance to succeed, I don't think Jerry would join in because he wants to bring the Superbowl to his stadium. Danny knows he won't get a Superbowl anytime soon.
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