Vikings Run Up The Score: Brooking vs. Pat Williams

[Kalisto2010]

I don't think any team should have compassion for the other. Especially at the professional level. In the NBA for instance teams are blown out on a nightly basis. And I've never seen any of them crying, or anyone calling the other team classless for doing so. It's your job to run up the score, not mitigate the feelings of your opponent.

[saden1]

When you have a chance to score, score....the game is really that simple. Yeah, I remember the whiners here when Skins got pummeled by the Pats. It was a sad and pathetic spectacle too. Don't get mad, get even.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by saden1

When you have a chance to score, score....the game is really that simple.

Your main goal is to beat the opponent, but you don't want to lose key players to injury in the process. What is the point of running up the score and risking injury to your players in a game that has clearly been won? Only an insecure person or a moron would do that IMO. Once the game is won (i.e., up by 3 scores with 3 minutes left), call off the dogs.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Your main goal is to beat the opponent, but you don't want to lose key players to injury in the process. What is the point of running up the score and risking injury to your players in a game that has clearly been won? Only an insecure person or a moron would do that IMO. Once the game is won (i.e., up by 3 scores with 3 minutes left), call off the dogs.

I agree, pulling your players is the smart thing to do and I would do it but I'm not going to fault someone else for trying to score.They have every right to do what they did.

[hail_2_da_skins]

F the Cowboys. Run it up!

[12thMan]

Why do we feel the need to bring up Belichick's personal life? Futher, it has nothing to do with this thread.

Back to the topic, Cowboys are low-life scum. And it hurt Troy Aikman's, and the media at large, little feelings that he couldn't smell Romo's jock for another week. Yeah, right!

[12thMan]

I can't wait to see the signs in the opposing stadiums next year thrashing Brooking for boo hooing.

[redskins forever]

you dont like it stop it plus did anyone notice with susiam (i dont care about spelling his name) missed more field goals for dallas the only thing better would have been is if he had to to do it with the game on the line also kaeding missed 3 field goal not like him

[BigHairedAristocrat]

If the Cowboys felt the game was "over," then on the preceding drive, when they were on offense, they should have been taking knees to indicate such. instead, they were going for touchdowns with a hope of winning the game. the cowboys werent acting like the game was over, so why should the vikings?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

The Cowboys felt the game was "over," then on the preceding drive, when they were on offense, they should have been taking knees to indicate such. instead, they were going for touchdowns with a hope of winning the game. the cowboys werent acting like the game was over, so why should the vikings?

Bingo. It works both ways. If the game was over, and if there was such a risk of injury, the Cowboys should have pulled Romo, Austin, Ware, and a few others. That would have sent the strongest signal that the dogs should be called off. Why should the Vikes fold up the tent, and let Romo and Co. take the field to pad their stats. And weren't the Cowboys talking trash during the week?

As long as the Cowboys are competing with every intention to score, I really don't get the reasoning that the Vikings should have called off the dogs.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Bingo. It works both ways. If the game was over, and if there was such a risk of injury, the Cowboys should have pulled Romo, Austin, Ware, and a few others. That would have sent the strongest signal that the dogs should be called off. Why should the Vikes fold up the tent, and let Romo and Co. take the field to pad their stats. And weren't the Cowboys talking trash during the week?

As long as the Cowboys are competing with every intention to score, I really don't get the reasoning that the Vikings should have called off the dogs.

All good points, but the Cowboys' actions don't dictate what is best for your team. When there are 2 minutes left in the game and you are up by 24 points, I think it's safe to take a knee or run out the clock. I don't think you can justify putting Brett Favre's shoulder or Peterson's knee at risk at that point, regardless of what the Cowboys are doing.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

All good points, but the Cowboys' actions don't dictate what is best for your team. When there are 2 minutes left in the game and you are up by 24 points, I think it's safe to take a knee or run out the clock. I don't think you can justify putting Brett Favre's shoulder or Peterson's knee at risk at that point, regardless of what the Cowboys are doing.

I guess there are good arguments on both sides. My only problem with the "injury" argument is that players risk getting injured running out that tunnel, so I don't think you can coach with the mentality. Also, it's not like the Vikings were at the 50 yard line and could have punted the ball. What we're really quibbling over is four points. That's it. The difference betwen a touchdown and a field goal.

So you're telling me the Cowboys would have been less offended had the Vikings made a field goal instead of sticking it in the end zone? That just sounds ridiculous.

[12thMan]

It's not the failure for people to see my side for running up the score that gets to me. First off, I just hate the Cowboys and I took great pleasure in watching Keith Brooking make an ass of himself by complaining.

It's the double standard that exists here and throughout professional sports that upsets me the most. Take Brooking for example. He's on the sideline doing his pre-game ritual taunting the Vikings and their staff, disrespecting the home crowd, and drawing attention to himself. Throughout the course of the game players on both sides continue to taunt, talk trash, fight, late hits, fask mask, leg whips, whatever it takes to get the edge. Their competitive juices kick in and overflow. I get that. But now that we're down to the final two minutes of the game, now all of sudden we're trying to define "class" and what's inappropriate? Are you kidding me? After nearly sixty minutes of talking shit and trying to pulverize the guy in the purple jersey, now it's time to be gentlemen and show some sportsmanship?

Either do away with all of it or stop drawing these little convenient lines defining what's acceptable and what's not. It's the double standard that burns me up.

[JoeRedskin]

Again - "classiest" thing in the world to do? No. Most classless act by a professional football team? No. Something reasonable given all the circumstances? Yup.

As 12th pointed out, its not like they had been running it up during the entire 4th quarter pouring it on after the Cowboys made it clear they were say "no mas". Up until the drive before the Cowboys were attempting to score. The Vikes were on the 10 and took a shot in the end zone. BFD. It clearly made the point as the cowboys didn't even pass on their next possession but called 2 or 3 running plays to run out the clock.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Again - "classiest" thing in the world to do? No. Most classless act by a professional football team? No. Something reasonable given all the circumstances? Yup.

As 12th pointed out, its not like they had been running it up during the entire 4th quarter pouring it on after the Cowboys made it clear they were say "no mas". Up until the drive before the Cowboys were attempting to score. The Vikes were on the 10 and took a shot in the end zone. BFD. It clearly made the point as the cowboys didn't even pass on their next possession but called 2 or 3 running plays to run out the clock.

Good point. Its not like Favre and the vikes were on their own 30 and just being asses. They were in easy scoring range. Really, pulling Favre and other key players out of the game (as many have suggested is what should have been done) and playing conservatively could have had the reduced the "momentum" the vikings carry going to New Orleans next week. Pulling starters out in a playoff game could also have "insulted" the cowboys even more. Favre was barely pressured all game. if i'm not mistaken, he's got the longest consecutive starting streak in NFL history. The chances of him getting hurt by staying in the game were minimal.

it amazes me how people will criticize the colts for sitting starters in "meanless" games and then criticize a team for doing the opposite in a game that actually meant something. this is the playoffs. the cardinals-packers game aside, every other playoff game this season has been boring and borderline unwatchable - atleast the vikings kept things interesting, even in the final minutes.

you also have to remember that this is very likely favre's final season in the NFL. its entirely possible that sunday was his last victory as well. why not let the man enjoy it?

and for those saying favre has no class or respect, dont forget he essentially fell down on purpose so a certain someone could get the all time sack record. Favre, like Manning, has an incredible level of respect and appreciation for the game. If he felt it were unsportsmanlike to keep