Landry is now a bust!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Not directly related to Landry, but an interesting read on Tackling in the NFL.

NFL: Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson is among the many coaches, players and GMs who lament -- or in AD's case celebrate -- the lost art of tackling - ESPN

Just to add to that:

Best Tackler in the NFL - ESPN Video - ESPN

And from Scouts Inc:

Fletcher is a model of consistency year after year and very well could be having the best season of his career. A precise form tackler, Fletcher consistently gets his man on the ground and is exceptional at hitting on the rise, wrapping and driving his feet on contact.

And from USA Football/NFLPA Ryan Clady selected to USA Football/NFLPA 'All-Fundamentals'*Team - Mile High Report (scroll down)

Basically....London Fletcher for player/coach!

[53Fan]

Nice article C. If Landry would learn to take the right angle and "wrap up" instead of launching his body he wouldn't miss so many. Someone needs to spend time with him the way Singletary has spent time with Willis and Ray Lewis.

[SBXVII]

I have avoided this thread because I think it's stupid to think we would cut or trade Landry, but I read the article today:
Redskins scapegoat: Kicker goes, safety stays - nfl - SI.com

and it pisses me off to see a kicker who was 18 for 21 get discarded like he was a bad piece of candy and have a Safety who whiffed on two plays causing 14 points to be put up on the board simply shrug it off with
"I'm just trying to make a play and he ran a good route,'' Landry said Wednesday. "Good game plan, man. They've got great coaches and they watch tape, too. The offensive coordinator dialed up a good play.''

Asked about learning from such mistakes, Landry shrugged and said: "I'll still play my game.''



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Landry we don't want you to continue to play "your game" we want you to fix your F-ing mistake and not make it again. Learn from your mistake. Stop making the same F-ing mistake.

Here's our second problem, a comment made by Carlos:
"I can't determine who they play or when they're benched or whatever their reason is behind it,'' Rogers said. "I'm out there now, so I ain't going to worry about it.''



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I understan you can't control who the coach's bench or who they play but you can control your mistakes and not get benched due to them. He sounds like he's saying "I have no idea what the hell the coach's are doing to why they do is. All I can do is play my game and not worry about it." Again, it's about learning from your F-ing mistakes.

I think what pisses me off is they act like they don't care. Oh well, I'm going to continue to do the same stupid shit cause I have no clue as to why I got benched.

I think this is why so many of us are upset at the fact there is no accountability. They act like kids who got punished and have no clue as to why they were punished. So they definitly will continue with making their mistakes. Yet a kicker (who I know is not the best in the league and was only a stop gap a few years ago and won the job this year cause other could not beat him out) who is 18 of 21 gets cut. At least the kicker had sense enough to know his play was bad and was upset by it knowing he might get the axe. The others are like Oh F-ing Well lets move on to the next game so I can do the same stupid shit cause it's not like the team will cut me.

[MTK]

Threads tend to hit a wall after a while, I think this one is there.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Threads tend to hit a wall after a while, I think this one is there.

We've just busted through that one and apparently have a whole new room to work with at this point.

[GTripp0012]

This team needs 8 additional London Fletchers.

[GridIron26]

I think it's interesting how Gray explained; I still don't see it as an excuse..

Redskins Insider - Gray's tale of 2 DBs and double-moves

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I think it's interesting how Gray explained; I still don't see it as an excuse..

Redskins Insider - Gray's tale of 2 DBs and double-moves

instead of gray explaining excuses he should explain we he hasn't been able to succesfully caoch two top ten defensive backs, i don't understand what he has done with our backs to gain so much respect

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I think it's interesting how Gray explained; I still don't see it as an excuse..

Redskins Insider - Gray's tale of 2 DBs and double-moves

Definitely not an excuse to me either.

Funny how people wants answers, and when they get them they are written off as excuses. You can't win.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Funny how people wants answers, and when they get them they are written off as excuses. You can't win.

Haha yea, it's true in most situations.. As for this situation, I guess we all are hoping for the coaches to admit that they are playing favoritism?

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Haha yea, it's true in most situations.. As for this situation, I guess we all are hoping for the coaches to admit that they are playing favoritism?

Or that there are reasonable replacements at other positions. Fred Smoot played decent while Rogers was on the bench. They clearly don't think Moore can come in and be effective if he hasn't at least taken over a series. IMO, they need to start Moore and see what Landry can do at SS because it doesn't seem like FS is working out.

[GridIron26]

^^ Chill out dude, I wasn't bashing Moore or Landry, nor did I say that coaches didn't like Moore.. Please reread my earlier post, I said that I hoped that Moore would be able to play as FS most of the game through out the year but it seems as if coaches didn't think that Moore was able to do that.. And the fact is, it didn't happen; using Landry as an excuse why Moore isn't playing much is pretty dumb.. If Moore is actually that good, then I'm sure Gray or Blache would move Landry to SS then both of our safeties would have speed.. Unfortunately, Blache didn't do that and he must have a reason not to do it..

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

^^ Chill out dude,

I'm sorry; i didn't intend to have an attacking tone.
I just distinguish between what you think and what the coaches have actually said.

I wasn't bashing Moore or Landry, nor did I say that coaches didn't like Moore.. Please reread my earlier post, I said that I hoped that Moore would be able to play as FS most of the game through out the year but it seems as if coaches didn't think that Moore was able to do that

Well when you say that:
-Moore should play FS
- LaRon should play SS
- And you view the fact that Moore didn't play FS for 'most of the game' throughout the year as i sign that coaches don't think he's able.

You're saying that

1) Landry isn't good enough at FS and needs to be moved to SS
2) Because Kareem doesn't get alot of playing time at FS that the coaches don't think he's good

...using Landry as an excuse why Moore isn't playing much is pretty dumb.. If.

The fact that Landry is our starting FS isn't an 'excuse' its a fact.
When 1 player starts his back-up doesn't.
Its pretty simple, i don't understand how that is 'dumb.'
For someone talking about about 'chillin out' maybe you shouldn't use words like 'dumb' in your post i could just as easily say the same thing about your logic.
And Moore does play how else did he get an interception?
He plays in the Cobra/Big nickel packages and he plays some Cover 2 S.

Moore is actually that good, then I'm sure Gray or Blache would move Landry to SS then both of our safeties would have speed.. Unfortunately, Blache didn't do that and he must have a reason not to do it.

Why would they move Landry to SS?
You said that you aren't bashing Landry yet you keep trying to demote him to SS.
The only player good enough to move Landry to SS was the late ST21 rip.
And as good as the coaching staff think Moore is he's not ST21.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm sorry; i didn't intend to have an attacking tone.
I just distinguish between what you think and what the coaches have actually said.



Well when you say that:
-Moore should play FS
- LaRon should play SS
- And you view the fact that Moore didn't play FS for 'most of the game' throughout the year as i sign that coaches don't think he's able.

You're saying that

1) Landry isn't good enough at FS and needs to be moved to SS
2) Because Kareem doesn't get alot of playing time at FS that the coaches don't think he's good



The fact that Landry is our starting FS isn't an 'excuse' its a fact.
When 1 player starts his back-up doesn't.
Its pretty simple, i don't understand how that is 'dumb.'
For someone talking about about 'chillin out' maybe you shouldn't use words like 'dumb' in your post i could just as easily say the same thing about your logic.
And Moore does play how else did he get an interception?
He plays in the Cobra/Big nickel packages and he plays some Cover 2 S.



Why would they move Landry to SS?
You said that you aren't bashing Landry yet you keep trying to demote him to SS.
The only player good enough to move Landry to SS was the late ST21 rip.
And as good as the coaching staff think Moore is he's not ST21.

dawan?

[The Goat]

I'd just ask people to think of it this way: how many safeties would you trade Landry for right now, today? Remember he was the 6th overall pick. I think if there are more than 10 guys you can think of he's a bust because that puts him well outside his draft status. I don't follow enough teams to name every guy I'd rather have but I easily get to 10. For example I can't think of Oakland's good safety but I've watched him a few games and would take him over Landry is a second...that's a dude that lays the would instead of flailing his body on the ground or glancing off the ball-carrier.