Landry is now a bust!

[joethiesmanfan]

QBs used to cringe when they see him slip through the crease at full speed... LOL!!!

[30gut]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

no. read strength #4 and weakness #2 on your chart. landry was the help, he should not have jumped the rout. the guy illustrating the video is wrong. smoot should not be over the top of landry, it's the other way around.

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

^ i agree, and i don't know how you can watch that video and not think both td's were all on landry biting on a double move.

the first was his hands down and it was a terrible move he bit on. the second was actualy a great move on meechams part but to say that over top across the middle was smoots responsibility, isn't right, landry was the help and he let the wideout burn him yet again.

and after watching those plays again i don't see how he can't get benched after los got benched for pretty much the same thing

Are serious?
After watching the video your response is to say that Mike Mayock is wrong?
You can look at the diagram i posted it explains why Smoot was supposed to have deep coverage when playing Cover 4.

No offense, but i think you guys are wrong and are blaming Landry because you don't understand the scheme.

Maybe this video will help:

NFL Videos: WK 13 Anatomy: Brees bombs away

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Are serious?
After watching the video your response is to say that Mike Mayock is wrong?
You can look at the diagram i posted it explains why Smoot was supposed to have deep coverage when playing Cover 4.

No offense, but i think you guys are wrong and are blaming Landry because you don't understand the scheme.

Maybe this video will help:

NFL Videos: WK 13 Anatomy: Brees bombs away

if the pass was to the outide yeah maybe smoot blew it, but the way that route was run there is no way smoot could have covered him and not had it be a complete pass or pass interference, smoot had outside coverage and the receiver broke in to the middle, and caught the pass in the middle.

watch the video with the volume muted and get back to me, landry bit and the pass was caught across the middle thats on the safety in my book

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Are serious?
After watching the video your response is to say that Mike Mayock is wrong?
You can look at the diagram i posted it explains why Smoot was supposed to have deep coverage when playing Cover 4.

No offense, but i think you guys are wrong and are blaming Landry because you don't understand the scheme.

Maybe this video will help:

NFL Videos: WK 13 Anatomy: Brees bombs away

Smoot played that second double move badly. He might as well be on the sidelines for that play, but.....

Landry's primary responsibility in that cover four was the exact deep quarter of the field that the pass was completed into. He completely failed on his basic number one responsibility. The analyst mentions that the crossing pattern was Landry's responsibilty, but it was not his first responsibilty in the cover four.

[CRedskinsRule]

Not directly related to Landry, but an interesting read on Tackling in the NFL.

NFL: Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson is among the many coaches, players and GMs who lament -- or in AD's case celebrate -- the lost art of tackling - ESPN

[53Fan]

Nice article C. If Landry would learn to take the right angle and "wrap up" instead of launching his body he wouldn't miss so many. Someone needs to spend time with him the way Singletary has spent time with Willis and Ray Lewis.

[SBXVII]

I have avoided this thread because I think it's stupid to think we would cut or trade Landry, but I read the article today:
Redskins scapegoat: Kicker goes, safety stays - nfl - SI.com

and it pisses me off to see a kicker who was 18 for 21 get discarded like he was a bad piece of candy and have a Safety who whiffed on two plays causing 14 points to be put up on the board simply shrug it off with
"I'm just trying to make a play and he ran a good route,'' Landry said Wednesday. "Good game plan, man. They've got great coaches and they watch tape, too. The offensive coordinator dialed up a good play.''

Asked about learning from such mistakes, Landry shrugged and said: "I'll still play my game.''



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Landry we don't want you to continue to play "your game" we want you to fix your F-ing mistake and not make it again. Learn from your mistake. Stop making the same F-ing mistake.

Here's our second problem, a comment made by Carlos:
"I can't determine who they play or when they're benched or whatever their reason is behind it,'' Rogers said. "I'm out there now, so I ain't going to worry about it.''



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I understan you can't control who the coach's bench or who they play but you can control your mistakes and not get benched due to them. He sounds like he's saying "I have no idea what the hell the coach's are doing to why they do is. All I can do is play my game and not worry about it." Again, it's about learning from your F-ing mistakes.

I think what pisses me off is they act like they don't care. Oh well, I'm going to continue to do the same stupid shit cause I have no clue as to why I got benched.

I think this is why so many of us are upset at the fact there is no accountability. They act like kids who got punished and have no clue as to why they were punished. So they definitly will continue with making their mistakes. Yet a kicker (who I know is not the best in the league and was only a stop gap a few years ago and won the job this year cause other could not beat him out) who is 18 of 21 gets cut. At least the kicker had sense enough to know his play was bad and was upset by it knowing he might get the axe. The others are like Oh F-ing Well lets move on to the next game so I can do the same stupid shit cause it's not like the team will cut me.

[MTK]

Threads tend to hit a wall after a while, I think this one is there.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Not directly related to Landry, but an interesting read on Tackling in the NFL.

NFL: Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson is among the many coaches, players and GMs who lament -- or in AD's case celebrate -- the lost art of tackling - ESPN

Just to add to that:

Best Tackler in the NFL - ESPN Video - ESPN

And from Scouts Inc:

Fletcher is a model of consistency year after year and very well could be having the best season of his career. A precise form tackler, Fletcher consistently gets his man on the ground and is exceptional at hitting on the rise, wrapping and driving his feet on contact.

And from USA Football/NFLPA Ryan Clady selected to USA Football/NFLPA 'All-Fundamentals'*Team - Mile High Report (scroll down)

Basically....London Fletcher for player/coach!

[GTripp0012]

This team needs 8 additional London Fletchers.

[GridIron26]

I think it's interesting how Gray explained; I still don't see it as an excuse..

Redskins Insider - Gray's tale of 2 DBs and double-moves

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I think it's interesting how Gray explained; I still don't see it as an excuse..

Redskins Insider - Gray's tale of 2 DBs and double-moves

instead of gray explaining excuses he should explain we he hasn't been able to succesfully caoch two top ten defensive backs, i don't understand what he has done with our backs to gain so much respect

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I think it's interesting how Gray explained; I still don't see it as an excuse..

Redskins Insider - Gray's tale of 2 DBs and double-moves

Definitely not an excuse to me either.

Funny how people wants answers, and when they get them they are written off as excuses. You can't win.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Funny how people wants answers, and when they get them they are written off as excuses. You can't win.

Haha yea, it's true in most situations.. As for this situation, I guess we all are hoping for the coaches to admit that they are playing favoritism?

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Haha yea, it's true in most situations.. As for this situation, I guess we all are hoping for the coaches to admit that they are playing favoritism?

Or that there are reasonable replacements at other positions. Fred Smoot played decent while Rogers was on the bench. They clearly don't think Moore can come in and be effective if he hasn't at least taken over a series. IMO, they need to start Moore and see what Landry can do at SS because it doesn't seem like FS is working out.