Better days ahead. (Off season part 1 thread)

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You dont think Scherff over Williams had a dash of need to it? Williams was widely regarded as the bpa. Id say , at the time at least, oline was a bigger need than dline. I think that u always have to consider bpa and need than weigh your optins. Is bpa that much better than bpa at a position of need? Dont think its so black n white as just bpa all day long?

I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper

Fair enough. I still think you gotta go bpa / need but I aint worried. SM is a draft king. HTTR

[MTK]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I don't because he stated that Scherff was the 3rd best player on his board behind Fowler and Cooper

People tend to forget everyone has their own draft board they're working from.

[KI Skins Fan]

Wanna see an amazing scouting report? Check this out:

Ezekiel Elliott Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Strengths:
First-step quickness
Serious burst to the hole
Excellent balance
Tremendous vision
Quick feet
Smooth runner
Ideal build
Runs behind his pads
Can break off long runs
Quick to the second level
Can be a one-cut downhill runner
Has elusiveness
Has the strength to run through tackles
Very hard to arm tackle
Rarely ever goes down on first contact
Capable of creating for himself
Gets yards after contact
Finishes runs well
Has a nose for the end zone
Wears down defenses
Good ball security
Runs low to the ground
Developed blocking and pass protection
Good receiver
Soft hands
Capable of controlling games
Runs well in the second half
Quality short-yardage back
Can change the complexion of an offense as a play-making runner
Experienced and successful against good college programs
Makes big plays in the clutch
Durable
Ready to play immediately

Weaknesses:
Good speed, but not elite

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Wanna see an amazing scouting report? Check this out:



Ezekiel Elliott Scouting Report

By Charlie Campbell



Strengths:

First-step quickness

Serious burst to the hole

Excellent balance

Tremendous vision

Quick feet

Smooth runner

Ideal build

Runs behind his pads

Can break off long runs

Quick to the second level

Can be a one-cut downhill runner

Has elusiveness

Has the strength to run through tackles

Very hard to arm tackle

Rarely ever goes down on first contact

Capable of creating for himself

Gets yards after contact

Finishes runs well

Has a nose for the end zone

Wears down defenses

Good ball security

Runs low to the ground

Developed blocking and pass protection

Good receiver

Soft hands

Capable of controlling games

Runs well in the second half

Quality short-yardage back

Can change the complexion of an offense as a play-making runner

Experienced and successful against good college programs

Makes big plays in the clutch

Durable

Ready to play immediately



Weaknesses:

Good speed, but not elite

Saw one mock that had us taking him at 21

[mredskins]

Strengths:
Ideal build and size
Quickness to the hole
Vision
Tough, physical runner
Runs behind pads
Proper pad level
Has good straight-line speed
Can break off long runs
Shiftiness
Capable of handling a large amount of touches
Excellent hands
Phenomenal receiving ability
Willing blocker in blitz pickup; has potential to be very good
Didn't take a massive pounding in college
Hard-nosed runner between the tackles
Improved study habits as a junior
Looks durable; backup for two seasons before becoming a starter



Weaknesses:
Will need to continue to improve blitz pickup
Intelligence?

That is Trent Richardson and he turned out so awesome.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Strengths:

Ideal build and size

Quickness to the hole

Vision

Tough, physical runner

Runs behind pads

Proper pad level

Has good straight-line speed

Can break off long runs

Shiftiness

Capable of handling a large amount of touches

Excellent hands

Phenomenal receiving ability

Willing blocker in blitz pickup; has potential to be very good

Didn't take a massive pounding in college

Hard-nosed runner between the tackles

Improved study habits as a junior

Looks durable; backup for two seasons before becoming a starter







Weaknesses:

Will need to continue to improve blitz pickup

Intelligence?



That is Trent Richardson and he turned out so awesome.

In all fairness - intelligence under weaknesses should be at least a minor red flag....
Ezekiel will not be another Trent Richardson.

[skinsfaninok]

If we let garçon go which I hope we don't but if we did, would anyone like Jermaine Kearse? Word is he won't be back in Seattle.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we let garçon go which I hope we don't but if we did, would anyone like Jermaine Kearse? Word is he won't be back in Seattle.

Depends on the money.

I don't think Garcon is anything special and he doesn't play to dollar imo.
Garcon is great after the catch, works hard/blocks...appears like a team guy, locker room guy.

But...Garcon isn't a deep threat, doesn't high point the ball well, doesn't gain great separation, doesn't easily/consistently beat press man without scheme help.

I don't think Kearse is an upgrade. Chop-chop has inconsistent hands and has some of the same issues as Garcon. But Kearse is a deep threat, can high point the ball and should cost much, much less.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Depends on the money.

I don't think Garcon is anything special and he doesn't play to dollar imo.
Garcon is great after the catch, works hard/blocks...appears like a team guy, locker room guy.

But...Garcon isn't a deep threat, doesn't high point the ball well, doesn't gain great separation, doesn't easily/consistently beat press man without scheme help.

I don't think Kearse is an upgrade. Chop-chop has inconsistent hands and has some of the same issues as Garcon. But Kearse is a deep threat, can high point the ball and should cost much, much less.

I like PG he's a great team guy it appears and he does do the dirty work. Kearse has some upside he played really well this yr.

[Schneed10]

Kiper gave us a good grade right after the draft, and he improved the grade after seeing our rookies play this year.

Redskins 2015 rookie class receives high mark from Mel Kiper - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

The best part about this, is I remember McCloughan standing at the podium reviewing the draft after the 3-day event concluded. He was asked how he thought he did, and went through espousing the positive traits of each guy, then took a sip of water he cracked a half-smile and said "it's a good group, you'll see."

He knew it all along. He knew going into that draft who was good, who wasn't. And he came away with plenty of his guys.

I just love his level of mastery over the whole thing. You come away KNOWING it's a good group of players, not wondering whether everything will pan out.

[punch it in]

Keep Garcon. Sign our own. Pay our own. Win through the draft and by keeping the team together.

[KI Skins Fan]

I'm thinking about dumping my wife. She's a good wife but she doesn't high point the ball well anymore. I'm looking for a new wife who's about the same as my current wife but can highpoint the ball. I hope my new wife will be able to get along with the kids.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I've read through a bit of this thread.

Needs on offense:

C

WR

TE

RB

I dont look at LG as a need. If you remember early in the year in the two games vs the Rams and Dolphins. We had Lauvo as our LG. He was really showing well this season before he was injured. With all the guys we lost he was one of the biggest. It did allow for Long to get acclimated to laying but Shaun was looking to really have a great year next to Trent. I want to see him back in the mix and with Lebrius and Long now both having a season of work there I see them as a great 1-2 G/C backuo combo.

C is a must though. Both Kory and Josh arent terrible but should not be used as the main starter.

WR- Very interested to see what we do with Garcon and Jackson to see how big the immediate need is. If we can keep both with a restructure or extension then great. I would like to keep both. So drafting a big #1 that can be developed is a good idea.

TE- again here we should be getting reinforcements from IR but we still need a guy here

RB- Jones and Thompson will be back. Young should be back. I would like to see Thomas (brought back) and a young guy brought back in.

other than those areas we are good on offense.

DEFENSE

DL-

LB-

CB-

S-


All are needs on defense.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I've read through a bit of this thread.



Needs on offense:



C



WR



TE



RB



I dont look at LG as a need. If you remember early in the year in the two games vs the Rams and Dolphins. We had Lauvo as our LG. He was really showing well this season before he was injured. With all the guys we lost he was one of the biggest. It did allow for Long to get acclimated to laying but Shaun was looking to really have a great year next to Trent. I want to see him back in the mix and with Lebrius and Long now both having a season of work there I see them as a great 1-2 G/C backuo combo.



C is a must though. Both Kory and Josh arent terrible but should not be used as the main starter.



WR- Very interested to see what we do with Garcon and Jackson to see how big the immediate need is. If we can keep both with a restructure or extension then great. I would like to keep both. So drafting a big #1 that can be developed is a good idea.



TE- again here we should be getting reinforcements from IR but we still need a guy here



RB- Jones and Thompson will be back. Young should be back. I would like to see Thomas (brought back) and a young guy brought back in.



other than those areas we are good on offense.



DEFENSE



DL-



LB-



CB-



S-





All are needs on defense.

This is exactly what we need and exactly why we need it.