The reason GW DIDNT want the job

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by ingibbswetrust

I would compromise my source by naming names. He was at Snyder's super bowl party in arizona, at the press conference this past week at redskins park and is very close to a number of people within the organization. You can take the info however you want, just putting it out there.

Well why in the world start a thread that you can't back up with anything other than..."I would compromise my source"? No offense but I take it as another worthless thread. GW was here 4 years waiting in the wings until JG retired and interviewed 3 maybe 4 times of course he wanted the HC job.

I guess you did narrow it down to a 100 people or so that nobody knows...

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by ingibbswetrust

I would compromise my source by naming names.

Unnamed sources = media talk for "I made it up"

[ingibbswetrust]

Originally Posted by Buster

Unnamed sources = media talk for "I made it up"

From the same source (who is friends with Snyder)...i called it a week before it was public.

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locke...-hof-game.html

Believe me or not, but this is why GW didn't "fit" (Snyder) or "work out" (Gibbs). You guys treat JLC's blog like its the bible; but 75% of everything he reports is from "league sources", "sources close to the situation", "team official who asked not to be identified"...news flash...this is how information disseminates in today's media.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by ingibbswetrust

From the same source (who is friends with Snyder)...i called it a week before it was public.

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locke...-hof-game.html

Believe me or not, but this is why GW didn't "fit" (Snyder) or "work out" (Gibbs). You guys treat JLC's blog like its the bible; but 75% of everything he reports is from "league sources", "sources close to the situation", "team official who asked not to be identified"...news flash...this is how information disseminates in today's media.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And "compromising your source"? Are we suddenly dealing with international spies? Is this the CIA or NSA handling football information? It sure would be a dark day if your "source" were uncovered in the field and then tortured for his misdeeds.

You are right about JLC, and frankly it's why I don't put a lot of stock in his blog. It's the same for the guys who pick stocks - make dozens and dozens if not hundreds of predictions, when one finally comes true point it out to everyone and hold it up as a shining example of your keen insight, failing to mention the other 99% that turned out to be completely bogus.

The bullshit people can spout on the internet with zero accountability is really amazing.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by ingibbswetrust

I would compromise my source by naming names. He was at Snyder's super bowl party in arizona, at the press conference this past week at redskins park and is very close to a number of people within the organization. You can take the info however you want, just putting it out there.

[ingibbswetrust]

Don't get me wrong, he wanted to job very badly just not under the circumstances presented. This is the same reason Cowher, Carrol, Spanolo, and Jim Mora all didn't want to touch this job with a 10 foot pole. Would you want to accept a job where you have nearly zero control and yet are held accountable for everything?

The result: we have a previous QB coach with no head coaching experience in any capacity on his resume, who was going to be passed over for the OC position in seattle when Mora takes over next year anyways. (From JLC's blog).

It's great that everyone is excited about this hire (because it isn't fassel) and I hope it works out; but we have to be honest that we resorted to option number 10 on our wish list thanks to our front office structure and hierarchy.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by ingibbswetrust

The result: we have a previous QB coach with no head coaching experience in any capacity on his resume, who was going to be passed over for the OC position in seattle when Mora takes over next year anyways. (From JLC's blog).

Alright for starters, the reason Zorn was going to be passed over for the OC job in Seattle was because Mora was going to rely on the Good Ole' boy network and bring in the man who turned Vick into an elite WC QB, Gregg Knapp.

[Joe Ribbs BBQ]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Alright for starters, the reason Zorn was going to be passed over for the OC job in Seattle was because Mora was going to rely on the Good Ole' boy network and bring in the man who turned Vick into an elite WC QB, Gregg Knapp.

Vick was an Elite QB??? I wouldnt go that far, maybe an Elite Athlete

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Joe Ribbs BBQ

Vick was an Elite QB??? I wouldnt go that far, maybe an Elite Athlete

Lol, it was sarcastic.

[Joe Ribbs BBQ]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Lol, it was sarcastic.

thanks for pointing that out, with sarcasm not being very clear sometimes and some of the posters on this site leave comments so ambiguous that who knows whate everything means, lol, either way.... HTTR and is it August yet!?!?!?!

[NM Redskin]

Why are you guys bagging on ingibbswetrust so much? He was right and has a source, let it go.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

Why are you guys bagging on ingibbswetrust so much? He was right and has a source, let it go.

He was right about what, exactly?

[wilsowilso]

What I don't get is people seem to think Snyder and Cerratto don't want and wouldn't strongly value the opinions of a head coach with regards to any kind of personnel decisions. It's not like they will say to Zorn hey why don't you take the week off during the draft. We got it taken care of. Having a GM with lots of power and an overbearing owner isn't some new concept in the sports world.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

What I don't get is people seem to think Snyder and Cerratto don't want and wouldn't strongly value the opinions of a head coach with regards to any kind of personnel decisions. It's not like they will say to Zorn hey why don't you take the week off during the draft. We got it taken care of. Having a GM with lots of power and an overbearing owner isn't some new concept in the sports world.

True, I noted in a previous thread recently that if you take a look back at snyder's tenure there has been a progression of sorts w/his coaches. In 01 Marty was given full control but DS didn't like that. So he fired Marty & brought vinny back. He hired spurrier & suddenly we get a bunch of gators. Obviously, Spurrier had a hand in signing them.

Then, Gibbs comes back & from all reports & appearances, it seems he had quite an impact on decisions to say the least. Of course Gibbs was also team prez & Snyder's idol, so his situation may be incomparable to anyone else.

However, I think snyder has shown some maturity in facilitating the collective minds of his head coaches & vinny, and I expect to see offensive players that meet Zorn's overall approval.

The real questions about the GW issue to me are;

if JLC is correct in stating that Blache has essentially been guaranteed full authority over defensive personel (whatever that means), was GW not given this same power in their negotiations? Did DS feel he had to give Blache that much power to keep him, even if he refused to do so w/GW?

What are the limits of Vinny's power vis a vis Blache? I would imagine he would overide Blache on personel acquisition, but Blache would have full say over who makes the team or gets cut.

[SKINStoWIN]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

What I don't get is people seem to think Snyder and Cerratto don't want and wouldn't strongly value the opinions of a head coach with regards to any kind of personnel decisions. It's not like they will say to Zorn hey why don't you take the week off during the draft. We got it taken care of. Having a GM with lots of power and an overbearing owner isn't some new concept in the sports world.

Very well said.