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Old 03-13-2013, 11:41 AM   #1
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Bush isnt coming here
Of course not, he's a luxury we don't have room for.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:42 AM   #2
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Bush isnt coming here
I heard he just really wanted to see the Lincoln Memorial before his connector flight to Arizona.
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Thats what Al Gore said and see what happened?
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Antoine Winfield is good, still has a year or two left in the tank, but is old and has had injuries catching up to him in the past couple of years.

Perhaps the redskins wait it out, see if Winfields still there, sign him to a cap friendly deal, and draft Tyrann Mathieu to set and watch behind Antoine while Mathieu becomes punt returner.

Cason, he's alright, but I'd rather have Talib over him and Winfield.
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Well also the fact that Roy helu isn't Reggie bush lol.
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As of a few weeks ago Helu wasn't even back to running yet. His health issues are a genuine concern.
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As of a few weeks ago Helu wasn't even back to running yet. His health issues are a genuine concern.
I smell a cap space oppurtunity.
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I smell a cap space oppurtunity.
Cutting him only frees up about $438k
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I smell a cap space oppurtunity.
According to the cap info here, Helu is set to make $673,000 this year. If we released him, we'd take a $235,000 hit, so we'd ultimately end up saving $438,000.

That said, we have to think about who'd we replace him with. If we replaced him with a rookie, it would cost, at minimum, $405,000. Minimum for a 3 year veteran would be $630,000. Ultimately, cutting/replacing helu would result in minimal savings or actually be more expensive. The ideal solution would be for Helu to come back healthy and do what we drafted him to do.
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According to the cap info here, Helu is set to make $673,000 this year. If we released him, we'd take a $235,000 hit, so we'd ultimately end up saving $438,000.

That said, we have to think about who'd we replace him with. If we replaced him with a rookie, it would cost, at minimum, $405,000. Minimum for a 3 year veteran would be $630,000. Ultimately, cutting/replacing helu would result in minimal savings or actually be more expensive. The ideal solution would be for Helu to come back healthy and do what we drafted him to do.
Personally, I think the team is unsure if he will be able to come back 100% or come back on time. I also thought there was something wrong with Royster as well?

I'd probably cut Helu and take a chance on drafting someone fast/edge runner in the 6th round again. Otherwise the radio was talking about how the team could restructure some other players to get more CAP space to pick up another player if need be.
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Personally, I think the team is unsure if he will be able to come back 100% or come back on time. I also thought there was something wrong with Royster as well?

I'd probably cut Helu and take a chance on drafting someone fast/edge runner in the 6th round again. Otherwise the radio was talking about how the team could restructure some other players to get more CAP space to pick up another player if need be.
I agree with you. If they dont think he will be 100% by the start of the regular season, we should cut him and use a late round pick on somene else. Still, if he's healthy, i want him on the team. Royster, dont really care about him.
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When Vinny Cerrato was GM the month of March was exciting .... with Bruce Allen at GM the months of Dec / Jan will be exciting for years to come.
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I wouldn't expect any big name guy. (Talib mostly) I thought this tweet was pretty funny and accurate.



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If Eric Schaffer can fit Talib into the current cap then he needs to start a ponzi scheme..
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I wouldn't expect any big name guy. (Talib mostly) I thought this tweet was pretty funny and accurate.



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If Eric Schaffer can fit Talib into the current cap then he needs to start a ponzi scheme..
Ok so I'm not up on all the new rules but a co-worker said that the players bonus's don't count against the CAP?

So if that is true then we could offer both Talib and the CB from Miami, Smith, a 1 yr huge signing bonus and both a 1 mill contract each, then next year give them a nice contract over a few yrs. We could get both maybe?

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Ok so I'm not up on all the new rules but a co-worker said that the players bonus's don't count against the CAP?

So if that is true then we could offer both Talib and the CB from Miami, Smith, a 1 yr huge signing bonus and both a 1 mill contract each, then next year give them a nice contract over a few yrs. We could get both maybe?

Yes? No?
All paid bonuses count against the cap. Signing bonuses are prorated over the life of the contract.

Performance bonuses are paid either this year or next based on how easy they are to obtain. A bonus of 1 mil for playing a single game, the NFL will count that this year since its considered easily obtainable. A bonus of 1 mil for having 10 TD's for a RB or WR will count next year if they reach that incentive this year.

Every bonus paid out counts against the cap somehow.
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