What is CP worth

hail_2_da_skins · 11-28-2006, 11:34 AM

You must be insane. Under no circumstances should the Skins trade Portis. This offense is tailor-made for Clinton Portis. Don't you remember the sprint draws and the mis-direction plays that went for big yards early in the season. Two problems occurred this year:

1) Portis should have never attempted to tackle that guy in the preseason. Its easy to say that now, but that one play may have killed the season. The Skins were tenative in preseason afterwards and got off to a lousy start because of it. The lingering effects of that shoulder injury hampered him during the season.

2) Mark Brunell did not execute the offense as planned. Saunders offense calls for quick reads and throwing to spots prior to the receiver making his cuts. Brunell didn't trust his reads and refused to throw ahead of the receivers. He seemed to mostly check down. That allowed teams to bring in their safeties and stop the run and play tight pass coverage. When teams play tight pass coverage, you have to challenge them deep to keep the defense honest. Brunell refused or was incapable of doing that. I think that in the long run Campbell will execute this offense better and open up the running game.

illdefined · 11-28-2006, 12:14 PM

Betts couldn't hold Portis's JOCK.

it's so cute how he pretends to be Clinton out there when he plays..and Betts is a real good player.

celts32 · 11-28-2006, 12:19 PM

Portis is going nowhere...he's young and very good. Betts is so average it's rediculous.

61cad · 11-28-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Second tier? Wtf?! The only back in the NFL that is arguably better is Tomlinson. Portis is more complete and durable than Alexander. He's one of the best pure runners in the league, and he blocks better than any tailback currently playing. And don't get me started on Betts. This is a stupid thread...

Have you seen Tikki run the ball over the last two years?

JGisLordOfTheRings · 11-28-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

Portis is going nowhere...he's young and very good. Betts is so average it's rediculous.

nice spelling but no,....Betts is a little above average I think and he feeds off of Portis' raw talent and it inspires him to run better, maybe even run different!

MTK · 11-28-2006, 04:36 PM

I don't know why some people are so down on Betts. He's a pretty solid backup and some team out there would probably give him a shot at starting. We could certainly do much worse.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 11-28-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't know why some people are so down on Betts. He's a pretty solid backup and some team out there would probably give him a shot at starting. We could certainly do much worse.

fuck yeah! they're are a bunch of teams that would LOVE to have him....Arizona maybe, after E. James slow start......Jets maybe, shot in the dark but, DA BEARS?

MTK · 11-28-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

fuck yeah! they're are a bunch of teams that would LOVE to have him....Arizona maybe, after E. James slow start......Jets maybe, shot in the dark but, DA BEARS?

The Bears are set with Jones and Benson.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 11-28-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Bears are set with Jones and Benson.

Again, shot in the dark there but, you catch my drift....Betts' could start for someone if he keeps playin the way he is. This is really his shot too. With CP out, he needs to carry the bulk of the load and i would love to see Duckett get WAYYYYYY more involved in the run game.....

MTK · 11-28-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

Again, shot in the dark there but, you catch my drift....Betts' could start for someone if he keeps playin the way he is. This is really his shot too. With CP out, he needs to carry the bulk of the load and i would love to see Duckett get WAYYYYYY more involved in the run game.....

The Jets were interested in trading for him earlier in the year.

Watch out for the next great NFL triplets, Ramsey, Betts, and Coles.

Pocket$ $traight · 11-28-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

fuck yeah! they're are a bunch of teams that would LOVE to have him....Arizona maybe, after E. James slow start......Jets maybe, shot in the dark but, DA BEARS?

Arizona needs linemen not runningbacks. James isn't the problem there. They need Betts like we need another receiver.

charlielyons · 11-28-2006, 11:27 PM

i like portis and all but i would not care that much if we traded him. good running backs are a dime a dozen. he is a top 7 back but not in the top 3. i can name at least 3 or 4 better backs. at his salary we could pick up 3 or 4 good players

That Guy · 11-29-2006, 06:58 AM

more like 1-2 good players or 4-5 average ones.

11-28-2006, 11:34 AM	#46
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 68 Posts: 868	Re: What is CP worth You must be insane. Under no circumstances should the Skins trade Portis. This offense is tailor-made for Clinton Portis. Don't you remember the sprint draws and the mis-direction plays that went for big yards early in the season. Two problems occurred this year: 1) Portis should have never attempted to tackle that guy in the preseason. Its easy to say that now, but that one play may have killed the season. The Skins were tenative in preseason afterwards and got off to a lousy start because of it. The lingering effects of that shoulder injury hampered him during the season. 2) Mark Brunell did not execute the offense as planned. Saunders offense calls for quick reads and throwing to spots prior to the receiver making his cuts. Brunell didn't trust his reads and refused to throw ahead of the receivers. He seemed to mostly check down. That allowed teams to bring in their safeties and stop the run and play tight pass coverage. When teams play tight pass coverage, you have to challenge them deep to keep the defense honest. Brunell refused or was incapable of doing that. I think that in the long run Campbell will execute this offense better and open up the running game. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

11-28-2006, 12:14 PM	#47
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: What is CP worth Betts couldn't hold Portis's JOCK. it's so cute how he pretends to be Clinton out there when he plays..and Betts is a real good player. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

11-28-2006, 12:19 PM	#48
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: What is CP worth Portis is going nowhere...he's young and very good. Betts is so average it's rediculous. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

11-28-2006, 04:36 PM	#51
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: What is CP worth I don't know why some people are so down on Betts. He's a pretty solid backup and some team out there would probably give him a shot at starting. We could certainly do much worse. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-28-2006, 11:27 PM	#57
charlielyons Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 394	Re: What is CP worth i like portis and all but i would not care that much if we traded him. good running backs are a dime a dozen. he is a top 7 back but not in the top 3. i can name at least 3 or 4 better backs. at his salary we could pick up 3 or 4 good players

11-29-2006, 06:58 AM	#58
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: What is CP worth more like 1-2 good players or 4-5 average ones.

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