Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Putting aside what would have to be given up to get them, who would you guys think would be the better QB for us-Sanchez or Quinn?

I'd say Quinn cause he's had two years of NFL experience. But I don't see Quinn or Sanchez being a top NFL. They just look like middle of the pack or serviceable guys. Neither has the skill set of Carson Palmer, Jay Cutler, Flacco or even Campbell.

[53Fan]

USC football: A reason Mark Sanchez should stay - USC - OCRegister.com
I think Sanchez is doing a wonderful job of putting his Communications Major to good use.

[WillH]

I don't know what to think about this whole thing . . .

I think that if we were in dire need of a young QB then I would be very excited by the prospect of drafting Sanchez, but honestly that excitement would be based on little other than hype. I mean his highlights are fairly impressive, and he's got a dynamite personality, especially compared to JC's robotic stoicism, and he seemed very excited about the possibility of being a redskin, but he's had what 16 starts as a college QB? How is that enough for this franchise to take such a huge risk to secure him? I mean I feel like JC's credentials coming out of college were a bit more comforting, (okay sure it wasn't until his fourth season starting that he really took off, but being successful in despite the system changes seemed to indicate he was more then a product of his environment, at very least) and what we gave up a 1st, 3rd, and 4th to secure him at pick 25? Now we are potentially going to give up double that to secure Sanchez? I'm just not sure it's a sound investment. How can you justify the risk with so little to base the potential reward on?

They must really have no faith in JC as our franchise QB. A trade up for Sanchez would go way beyond the Redskins covering all their bases, considering all possibilities to improve the franchise. Talk of it is even toeing the line when it comes to the QB position, you really risk effecting the psyche of a young QB in these situations, so you've got to think their concern in JC as our future must outweigh their concern that they might be damaging his ego at crucial juncture in his career.

Sooo as I see it, one of three things can happen:

1. We pull the trigger, get MS, trade JC, and start a very unproven young QB, with Todd Collins as the seasoned veteran, and they essentially will have pressed reset when it comes to Zorn teaching the starting QB his system ...

2. They can't trade up, they settle for JC, whom they have no faith in, and whose ego is severely tentative due to our off season moves ( I've heard he's gone on vacation with Sellers, so he is obviously concerned about all this) ...

3. It proves to be a smoke screen, and a brilliant one at that, but what could all this convoluted scheming be a smoke screen for? Could JC be in on it? Are they trying to trick teams into thinking they are a disjointed franchise, so they can pounce on unsuspecting teams during the season with JC (who secretly they had complete faith in the whole time) at the helm? Will the take a fall through the preseason to keep this going?

Option three is the only one that would restore my faith in this FO, and certainly the least likely to happen. So in that light, I guess I'm on board with drafting Sanchez. I guess if they have no faith in JC it'd be better for them to pull the trigger now while they can get something for him ( btw, what do you think we can get?) than to hope his stoic demeanor is so pervasive he can actually not care about what has gone down this off season, and can prove them wrong.

All in all, this franchise is way too tumultuous to develop into a real contender. S@#$, why do you need a superstar QB? I know its exciting to watch and all, but it is not a surefire way to win a SuperBowl ( i.e. McNabb). I would have much preferred they stuck it out with Campbell, but at this point I'm not sure that option and their aims are reconcilable any longer. Either way, the future of the franchise is extremely uncertain at the moment, this move has the feel of one of the colossal mistakes of the Dan Snyder era.

[skinsfan_nn]

Well we are at 13 right now in the first ..but whos counting..? This could get very interesting.

Sanchez Situation Getting Interesting
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m.

At a time when much of the focus falls on the question of when and if the Lions will do a deal with Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 overall pick, the other big-name quarterback is continuing to stir things up.

According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN, intrigue is developing surrounding USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Several teams are involved — the Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Jets, for starters.

One scenario involves the Redskins moving from No. 12 to No. 4 (a spot held by Seattle), drafting Sanchez, and then trading Jason Campbell to the Vikings, Bucs, or Jets.

The Browns also are supposedly interested in taking Sanchez at No. 5 and trading Brady Quinn, to the Bucs or the Jets.

Per Paolantonio, the Jets are the team most interested in Quinn. But the Jets also are inclined to try to beat the ‘Skins to Sanchez.

If Sanchez is on the board after pick No. 5, we’ve been told that the action is likely at No. 8, with the Jags trading down with the Redskins or the Jets.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Well we are at 13 right now in the first ..but whos counting..? This could get very interesting.

Sanchez Situation Getting Interesting
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m.

At a time when much of the focus falls on the question of when and if the Lions will do a deal with Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 overall pick, the other big-name quarterback is continuing to stir things up.

According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN, intrigue is developing surrounding USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Several teams are involved — the Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Jets, for starters.

One scenario involves the Redskins moving from No. 12 to No. 4 (a spot held by Seattle), drafting Sanchez, and then trading Jason Campbell to the Vikings, Bucs, or Jets.

The Browns also are supposedly interested in taking Sanchez at No. 5 and trading Brady Quinn, to the Bucs or the Jets.

Per Paolantonio, the Jets are the team most interested in Quinn. But the Jets also are inclined to try to beat the ‘Skins to Sanchez.

If Sanchez is on the board after pick No. 5, we’ve been told that the action is likely at No. 8, with the Jags trading down with the Redskins or the Jets.

I see your ESPN reporter and raise you with ESPN NFC East Blogger Matt Mosley-

Sanjay (Da Iladel, PA): Considering the Skins signed Haynesworth to compete right now, won't drafting a guy like Sanchez, who is clearly not ready to start immediately with his limited college experience, set the Redskins playoff chances back a couple years? I think it would be difficult to keep Campbell as a starter with one year left on his contract and Sanchez as a backup.

SportsNation Matt Mosley: (10:18 AM ET ) Franchise quarterbacks are hard to come by. If the 'Skins have truly fallen in love with Sanchez (and I'm not convinced they have), then you don't have a bunch of "win now" discussions. Did anyone think the Falcons would "win now" after drafting Ryan. I think you'd bring the kid in and let him compete with Campbell. If Campbell wins, that might actually be a positive thing.

vic (dc) [via mobile]: do u think the redskins will move up to get sanchez? or do they hope for maybin or orakpo to drop

SportsNation Matt Mosley: (10:45 AM ET ) 'Skins are privately saying it's not going to happen. But I don't believe anything right now. Not even my wife. Kidding.

Rocky(Binghamton,NY): I don't like any of the prospects outside of Orakpo/Maybin at number 11 for the bills. If neither is there I'd say trade down to maximize their draft picks. What do you think the bills can get for there #11 pick if sanchez is still available?

SportsNation Matt Mosley: (10:58 AM ET ) I'd get Vinny Cerrato on the phone and find out. The Redskins would simply swap picks with the Bills. But Buffalo's going to also ask for a premium pick in 2010 (see first-rounder). I know Snyder doesn't want to do it. But that might be the price.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

SportsNation Matt Mosley: (10:58 AM ET ) I'd get Vinny Cerrato on the phone and find out. The Redskins would simply swap picks with the Bills. But Buffalo's going to also ask for a premium pick in 2010 (see first-rounder). I know Snyder doesn't want to do it. But that might be the price.

A frickin first for 2 spots? then again you do have to worry about denver taking him at 12

I just can't see Sanchez going that high though... especially when there appears to be a few teams definitely willing to trade up for him.. what would stop us, the jets, etc from trading up well before 11 if he starts slipping? do the browns just give up on going after him? I know that was the guy's question but still

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Well we are at 13 right now in the first ..but whos counting..? This could get very interesting.

Sanchez Situation Getting Interesting
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m.

At a time when much of the focus falls on the question of when and if the Lions will do a deal with Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 overall pick, the other big-name quarterback is continuing to stir things up.

According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN, intrigue is developing surrounding USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Several teams are involved — the Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Jets, for starters.

One scenario involves the Redskins moving from No. 12 to No. 4 (a spot held by Seattle), drafting Sanchez, and then trading Jason Campbell to the Vikings, Bucs, or Jets.

The Browns also are supposedly interested in taking Sanchez at No. 5 and trading Brady Quinn, to the Bucs or the Jets.

Per Paolantonio, the Jets are the team most interested in Quinn. But the Jets also are inclined to try to beat the ‘Skins to Sanchez.

If Sanchez is on the board after pick No. 5, we’ve been told that the action is likely at No. 8, with the Jags trading down with the Redskins or the Jets.

Yeah I just heard this. Where there is smoke there is fire. I just get the feeling that Jason Campbell's days are numbered here. I mean are the Jets and Bucs really going to go into the season with the current group of QB's they have??? I doubt it. I would think that the NYJ would be a perfect fit for Campbell.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Well we are at 13 right now in the first ..but whos counting..? This could get very interesting.

Sanchez Situation Getting Interesting
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m.

At a time when much of the focus falls on the question of when and if the Lions will do a deal with Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 overall pick, the other big-name quarterback is continuing to stir things up.

According to Sal Paolantonio of ESPN, intrigue is developing surrounding USC quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Several teams are involved — the Seahawks, Browns, Redskins, and Jets, for starters.

One scenario involves the Redskins moving from No. 12 to No. 4 (a spot held by Seattle), drafting Sanchez, and then trading Jason Campbell to the Vikings, Bucs, or Jets.

The Browns also are supposedly interested in taking Sanchez at No. 5 and trading Brady Quinn, to the Bucs or the Jets.

Per Paolantonio, the Jets are the team most interested in Quinn. But the Jets also are inclined to try to beat the ‘Skins to Sanchez.

If Sanchez is on the board after pick No. 5, we’ve been told that the action is likely at No. 8, with the Jags trading down with the Redskins or the Jets.

Hate to nit pick, but we don't have the 12th. I know all these rumors will be flying for the next few days, but I can't see any way that we actually trade for Sanchez. None, Zero, Zip, Zilch. Zorn, who by all appearances is the least able to put up a false front, has been continually supporting Campbell, and barely able to smoke screen that we might go for someone else. Vinny, we all know, "lies" up until a final deal is done. And DS has said nothing except vague statements about winning to enable VC's draft day manipulations. I am absolutely confident that we will not pick Sanchez.

[Paintrain]

JLC chatting Redskins draft now at NFL Draft: Will the Redskins Land Sanchez? - washingtonpost.com

[dmek25]

just read the jets are interested in Campbell. cant get the link to work. anyone have an idea on what he would be worth?

[mooby]

im just gonna go ahead and say it, snyder should just fire zorn and take over as coach because why have a coach that u are always gonna undermine with stupid decisions. i try to stay levelheaded at times like these but with ideas as bad as these its hard not to.

[Monkeydad]

NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports that there is "chatter" the Jets would try to swing a trade for Jason Campbell on draft day if the Redskins move up to draft Matthew Stafford.
This is pretty much setting the stage for a potential three-team swap. The Skins are already short on picks and would likely have to dip into their 2010 draft class to move up the board. It could potentially also mean throwing Sanchez into the fire, which sounds foolish after only 16 college starts.

Jason Campbell


Has to be a typo!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Buster

NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports that there is "chatter" the Jets would try to swing a trade for Jason Campbell on draft day if the Redskins move up to draft Matthew Stafford.
This is pretty much setting the stage for a potential three-team swap. The Skins are already short on picks and would likely have to dip into their 2010 draft class to move up the board. It could potentially also mean throwing Sanchez into the fire, which sounds foolish after only 16 college starts.

Jason Campbell


Has to be a typo!

Nah, Vinny just got his highly polished QBs that we're supposed to be interested in all mixed up.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Buster

NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports that there is "chatter" the Jets would try to swing a trade for Jason Campbell on draft day if the Redskins move up to draft Matthew Stafford.
This is pretty much setting the stage for a potential three-team swap. The Skins are already short on picks and would likely have to dip into their 2010 draft class to move up the board. It could potentially also mean throwing Sanchez into the fire, which sounds foolish after only 16 college starts.

Jason Campbell


Has to be a typo!

I don't like Stafford. At least as a Redskin. Sanchez on the other hand has all the tools to succeed as a West Coast QB. Good feet, mobile, accurate, quick release. He also has some nice intangibles. His setbacks of course are limited starting experience and average arm strength but for a West Coast QB this isn't to big of a deal.

[mooby]

seems like everybody else has gotten used to the idea of jc being gone before training camp but im still a stout campbell supporter.