Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I liked that line because it was honest. I didn't interpret it as laying the responsibility for the entire record at Cousins's feet, because he did in the same answer say that injuries played a big role. But yeah, I mean wasn't Cousins the primary culprit for the Week 17 loss to the Giants and a huge contributor to the shit burger we laid against the Chargers?

He was also a major contributor to several of our wins.

But Gruden's right, he was good, but we were only 7-9 and he needs to be better.

Great point. Agree.

Additionally, He was being asked about Kirk right after the worst game of his career. He could not get up and be a cheerleader and maintain any sort of credibility.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I wonder what the narrative would be right now if we didn’t have all the injuries, finished 10-6 or 11-5 and went on to win a playoff game.

The only thing I didn’t like about Gruden’s take on Cousins was he seemed to be hanging the 7-9 record squarely on him.

That's what I was thinking, It's like Jay used Kirk as his scapegoat because He may know KC wont be back... We'll see

[Chico23231]

One thing is for certain...more drama with this subject this offseason. The only way we could have more drama is if someone on twitter who lives on Pennsylvania Ave would comment about this situation. G1's homie

[MTK]

He wouldn’t have been lying though if he said Kirk had a heck of a season given the circumstances.

[SFREDSKIN]

Great article by Keim:

Jay Gruden's comments reveals Redskins' dilemma with Kirk Cousins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

He wouldn’t have been lying though if he said Kirk had a heck of a season given the circumstances.

Agreed.

My feeling is Kirk is gone. Hate it but I'm not seeing any signs of things going in the direction of him staying.

Maybe Jay is doing business out there and doesn't want to give Kirk anymore leverage than he already has.
But he could have been more emphatic about him and still be accurate and fair... And he's HC, not GM.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Agreed.

My feeling is Kirk is gone. Hate it but I'm not seeing any signs of things going in the direction of him staying.

Maybe Jay is doing business out there and doesn't want to give Kirk anymore leverage than he already has.
But he could have been more emphatic about him and still be accurate and fair... And he's HC, not GM.

Same here, why would a HC say "we're 7-9, hard to say he did great" Cmon man, we aren't fooled, the skins dont want to pay KC 30M a year for the next 6 years. Just admit it and move on

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Same here, why would a HC say "we're 7-9, hard to say he did great" Cmon man, we aren't fooled, the skins dont want to pay KC 30M a year for the next 6 years. Just admit it and move on

I agree.
I like KC and wish he could be our QB of the future but not at $30M per.
But I blame our FO and ownership for us being in this impossible contractual position with Cousins.
We knew 4 to 5 years ago that the salary cap was going up each year by amounts we have never before seen. Yet they did not offer Cousins an agreeable contract and told him to prove himself.

Add now - our Head Coach is publicly spinning the narrative to justify KC's possible departure by bringing up the 7-9 record. That is classless.
Gruden just shut up. You are no prize.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I agree.
I like KC and wish he could be our QB of the future but not at $30M per.
But I blame our FO and ownership for us being in this impossible contractual position with Cousins.
We knew 4 to 5 years ago that the salary cap was going up each year by amounts we have never before seen. Yet they did not offer Cousins an agreeable contract and told him to prove himself.

Add now - our Head Coach is publicly spinning the narrative to justify KC's possible departure by bringing up the 7-9 record. That is classless.
Gruden just shut up. You are no prize.

Yep

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I agree.
I like KC and wish he could be our QB of the future but not at $30M per.
But I blame our FO and ownership for us being in this impossible contractual position with Cousins.
We knew 4 to 5 years ago that the salary cap was going up each year by amounts we have never before seen. Yet they did not offer Cousins an agreeable contract and told him to prove himself.

Add now - our Head Coach is publicly spinning the narrative to justify KC's possible departure by bringing up the 7-9 record. That is classless.
Gruden just shut up. You are no prize.

Not as classless as Bruce's statement from last year. But still pretty cheap.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I agree.
I like KC and wish he could be our QB of the future but not at $30M per.
But I blame our FO and ownership for us being in this impossible contractual position with Cousins.
We knew 4 to 5 years ago that the salary cap was going up each year by amounts we have never before seen. Yet they did not offer Cousins an agreeable contract and told him to prove himself.

Add now - our Head Coach is publicly spinning the narrative to justify KC's possible departure by bringing up the 7-9 record. That is classless.
Gruden just shut up. You are no prize.

Probably wouldn't have said a word if the skins went 8-8.

[skinsfaninok]

Elway: Broncos' No. 1 goal is to upgrade QB position - NFL.com

Kirk the 3 years as a starter for us.

81 TD passes
36 Ints

13 Rush Tds
11 Fumbles lost

13,176 passing yards..

Yeah I can see why Denver wants him

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Elway: Broncos' No. 1 goal is to upgrade QB position - NFL.com

Kirk the 3 years as a starter for us.

81 TD passes
36 Ints

13 Rush Tds
11 Fumbles lost

13,176 passing yards..

Yeah I can see why Denver wants him

The rest of that team is ready to win now, it's easy to see why Denver wants him. Elway doesn't wanna wait another 2-3 years for Lynch to grow. Unfortunately we're not in the same position, even if we bring Kirk back there's still plenty of room for improvement elsewhere, which is why this is a dilemma in the first place. I agree with everyone else, no way we want Kirk at 30 mil per, and I'm not sure I see him settling for less. He walks.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by mooby

The rest of that team is ready to win now, it's easy to see why Denver wants him. Elway doesn't wanna wait another 2-3 years for Lynch to grow. Unfortunately we're not in the same position, even if we bring Kirk back there's still plenty of room for improvement elsewhere, which is why this is a dilemma in the first place. I agree with everyone else, no way we want Kirk at 30 mil per, and I'm not sure I see him settling for less. He walks.

It seems the players on Denver want him there too:
Who'll make Kirk Cousins the highest-paid player ever? - NFL.com

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

It seems the players on Denver want him there too:
Who'll make Kirk Cousins the highest-paid player ever? - NFL.com

Fuck Denver. Jacksonville would be his best bet. League's best defense. A stud at RB. Decent WRs. Decent OL.

He'd be a fucking fool not to go.