Trade for Boldin?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

ESPN is reporting that the Redskins made an offer to the Cardinals to acquire Boldin in a trade but the Cardinals declined the offer.

I just saw that on the sportscenter ticker.
What was the offer for Boldin?

[redsk1]

I'd give up this years first for Boldin. Done deal. Maybe even throw in a late rounder...5-7th round pick. Proven talent, young, and what we need. We wouldn't be mortgaging our future either. If you take a WR at #21 it's hit or miss. Almost 50/50 chance he's be productive.

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

I really dont feel we have the necessary cap space to make a deal like this work. I mean of course we do if we cut a bunch of guys and restructure a bunch of other contracts, but doing both of those things hurts the team in the long run more than getting a standout WR with the amount that they are going for. At this rate of restructuring contracts, Jansen, Thomas, Samuels, Portis, Moss, Randle El, Carter, smoot, washington, and griffin will all still be redskins when they are 90 due to the rediculous bonus money they will have. Not to mention, griffin, washington, springs, wade, and probably more people but I cant think of them all right now are in danger of getting cut due to the cap.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

I really dont feel we have the necessary cap space to make a deal like this work. I mean of course we do if we cut a bunch of guys and restructure a bunch of other contracts, but doing both of those things hurts the team in the long run more than getting a standout WR with the amount that they are going for. At this rate of restructuring contracts, Jansen, Thomas, Samuels, Portis, Moss, Randle El, Carter, smoot, washington, and griffin will all still be redskins when they are 90 due to the rediculous bonus money they will have. Not to mention, griffin, washington, springs, wade, and probably more people but I cant think of them all right now are in danger of getting cut due to the cap.

They obviously do since they're trying to work out a deal. I'm sure they probably have the space already penciled in for a contract of that magnitude and have running projections of the entire roster for the next 3 years. If there's one thing this front office knows how to do well it's working the cap.

[BeastsoftheNFCeast]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

They obviously do since they're trying to work out a deal. I'm sure they probably have the space already penciled in for a contract of that magnitude and have running projections of the entire roster for the next 3 years. If there's one thing this front office knows how to do well it's working the cap.

Im not talking about this year, this year we are fine no matter what, but our system of working the cap is dependent on turning yearly money into signing bonus money, which makes extends their contract because we do not have the room to cut them. Well all our guys that we routinely restructure, our core players, samuels, jansen, thomas, moss, portis, randle el. Are getting up there in years (I know portis is young, but I feel like his physical style of play will have him have a shortened career). We would have to pay old fragile players who are way past their prime loads of money and not be able to cut them. And it has a chain effect because we will have to restructure them again and again because we keep pushing the money back. The only way out of this in my mind is to build through the draft for a good 2 years, otherwise we will be stuck with players way past their prime, and paying them a kings ransom.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Im not talking about this year, this year we are fine no matter what, but our system of working the cap is dependent on turning yearly money into signing bonus money, which makes extends their contract because we do not have the room to cut them. Well all our guys that we routinely restructure, our core players, samuels, jansen, thomas, moss, portis, randle el. Are getting up there in years (I know portis is young, but I feel like his physical style of play will have him have a shortened career). We would have to pay old fragile players who are way past their prime loads of money and not be able to cut them. And it has a chain effect because we will have to restructure them again and again because we keep pushing the money back. The only way out of this in my mind is to build through the draft for a good 2 years, otherwise we will be stuck with players way past their prime, and paying them a kings ransom.

And like I said they are well aware of how moves made today impact the future. They keep a rolling 3 year projection. They know who will need to be restructured and/or released.

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I'd give up this years first for Boldin. Done deal. Maybe even throw in a late rounder...5-7th round pick. Proven talent, young, and what we need. We wouldn't be mortgaging our future either. If you take a WR at #21 it's hit or miss. Almost 50/50 chance he's be productive.

I agree with this. Drafting WRs (or any player for that matter) is a risky proposition. These guys have all proven that they can play serious WR in the NFL. It does not surprise me at all that the teams in question turned us down.

I think Boldin would be a great compliment to the small fast WRs we have. But I would be shocked if the Cards give him up.

[Dirtbag59]

Should we change the title of the thread to something like "Cardinals turned down Redskins offer for Boldin"?

[celts32]

I like Boldin for us better then CJ...younger and less mouth. Seems like a good fit next to Moss. i would try and get him for less then CJ though...maybe just the #1 with nothing else added on.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by celts32

I like Boldin for us better then CJ...younger and less mouth. Seems like a good fit next to Moss. i would try and get him for less then CJ though...maybe just the #1 with nothing else added on.

I could get on board with that.
And you're right about Boldin being better for us, and being a good compliment to Moss.

[baxter81]

Yes to Boldin. Yes to CJ. Yes to Williams. All three of them would be a good compliment to Moss. Take witch ever one you can get for less. Most likely Roy.

[jdlea]

The only way I would trade for Anquan is if we could get him for this year's 2 and next year's 2 or lower. He's not worth what we offered for Chad, but he's definitely better than the players the Skins have at WR.

[baxter81]

Chads not worth what we offered for Chad

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by baxter81

Chads not worth what we offered for Chad

If Chad Johnson were available for the 21st overall pick, I wouldn't be too upset. The 2nd #1 is a little bit much, but it may have only been a #3, I don't have too much of a problem with that. He'll be 30, but if this team wants to win sooner rather than later, that would not have been that bad of a trade. It's a lot to give up, but I have very little faith that the Skins will pick a player who can make an immediate impact at the 21st overall pick.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think they may be disappointed.

[baxter81]

Originally Posted by jdlea

If Chad Johnson were available for the 21st overall pick, I wouldn't be too upset. The 2nd #1 is a little bit much, but it may have only been a #3, I don't have too much of a problem with that. He'll be 30, but if this team wants to win sooner rather than later, that would not have been that bad of a trade. It's a lot to give up, but I have very little faith that the Skins will pick a player who can make an immediate impact at the 21st overall pick.

I hope I'm wrong, but I think they may be disappointed.

It all depends on where you think the team is right now. Are they one good player away from being a legit SB contender. Some say yes. I think that with the new coach and new system there is a good chance we take a step back this year. This isn't the year that we need to go after that one player that can push us over the top if it means sacrificing the chance to build more depth in post ions that desperately need it (OL, DL, CB). Chad is a great receiver and i would love to have him in the "Maroon & Black". If it were just the 21st, i would pull the trigger, but a 1st and a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd is too much