Vick conditionally reinstated by NFL (updated)

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The fact is your guessing. So he lost 2 tenths of a second on his 40. The 40 is a good measure for speed but does not touch the intangables like making players miss tackles. He's had 2 yrs to simply run around a fenced in field. 2 yrs to weight lift and get stronger. If I'm not mistaken they even allow balls in jail so he probably found a way to throw a ball once and a while. Most likely all he has to work on is his accuracy.

Uh, I am guessing too, but I don't think a jailhouse yard is going to provide the same benefits as a NFL level training regimen. Could he do the basics, yes, but coming back to his former level, and getting better in the areas he lacked, is going to be extremely difficult.

A difference between Vick and Mike Williams, is we know Williams didn't have the desire, or play up to his potential. Now whether he can or not, TC/PreSeason will tell. But Vick has to change the way he played, and show abilities he didn't seem to possess, even when he was fullout balling.

But time will tell with both.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Uh, I am guessing too, but I don't think a jailhouse yard is going to provide the same benefits as a NFL level training regimen. Could he do the basics, yes, but coming back to his former level, and getting better in the areas he lacked, is going to be extremely difficult.

A difference between Vick and Mike Williams, is we know Williams didn't have the desire, or play up to his potential. Now whether he can or not, TC/PreSeason will tell. But Vick has to change the way he played, and show abilities he didn't seem to possess, even when he was fullout balling.

But time will tell with both.

Not saying he's 100%. Just saying I'm sure he kept himself in as good a shape as he could get in while in the big house.....you know running away from Bubba. LOL.

People keep talking about moving him to another position ie; WR a skilled position. That will take time and who knows if he will work out. If there are any teams looking at him I would guess it would be as QB or to be used as a QB in the Wild Cat situation.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The fact is your guessing. So he lost 2 tenths of a second on his 40. The 40 is a good measure for speed but does not touch the intangables like making players miss tackles. He's had 2 yrs to simply run around a fenced in field. 2 yrs to weight lift and get stronger. If I'm not mistaken they even allow balls in jail so he probably found a way to throw a ball once and a while. Most likely all he has to work on is his accuracy.

You're joking right? 2 tenths of a second is huge at the NFL level, think about the difference between a 4.4 & a 4.6 guy. And the 4.4 is speculation by his trainer, he might be at 4.5 or 4.6. Please don't tell me you think the federal pen in Leavenworth, KS is going to prepare Vick for the NFL. I've seen no mention of him throwing, just playing basketball and lifting. Oh yeah, he's also 29, people don't get faster as they age.

Vick didn't have accuracy in his prime, how's it going to develop now? That broad side of the barn he couldn't hit before, ain't gettin' any bigger.

My statements are certainly no "guess".

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You're joking right? 2 tenths of a second is huge at the NFL level, think about the difference between a 4.4 & a 4.6 guy. And the 4.4 is speculation by his trainer, he might be at 4.5 or 4.6. Please don't tell me you think the federal pen in Leavenworth, KS is going to prepare Vick for the NFL. I've seen no mention of him throwing, just playing basketball and lifting. Oh yeah, he's also 29, people don't get faster as they age.

Vick didn't have accuracy in his prime, how's it going to develop now? That broad side of the barn he couldn't hit before, ain't gettin' any bigger.

My statements are certainly no "guess".

No I'm not joking. The only time 2 tenths of a second will come in to play is in the long run. Very similar to racing. Both cars shoot of the line at the same time but the car that is 2 tenths of a second faster will win in the long run ...right. But it takes a long run. 2 tenths of a second is not gunna matter when it comes to dropping back and having to side step a rusher. Thats agility. Most of MV runs were him side stepping rushers and while running down field making defensive players miss tackles. He hardly ever ran full speed straight down the field.

As far as your accuracy you are correct. Which is why I'm not really into him as a player. If our coach's felt they needed his talent to make the team better then I guess they would know best.

[joethiesmanfan]

Look at the Redskins. Zorn gets out schemed in Detroit, too busy trying to show Portis who's the boss. Santana Moss runs back a punt with his athleticism, saves his hide.

[joethiesmanfan]

So you saying people weren't saying when was Peyton gonna when a playoff game? How long did it take him to win a playoff game? Took him until they filled up his skill positions and O-line with 1st round picks at the expense of the defense.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

So you saying people weren't saying when was Peyton gonna when a playoff game? How long did it take him to win a playoff game? Took him until they filled up his skill positions and O-line with 1st round picks at the expense of the defense.

They won a SB,so i guess it WORKED. just sayin

[MTK]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

So you saying people weren't saying when was Peyton gonna when a playoff game? How long did it take him to win a playoff game? Took him until they filled up his skill positions and O-line with 1st round picks at the expense of the defense.

fail on many levels

[DBUCHANON101]

Well Romo has NEVER won a playoff game so thats easy. try putting him in good company next time.

[joethiesmanfan]

I just like saying Romo never won a playoff game. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I just like saying Romo never won a playoff game. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Did someone say that Romo has never won a playoff game?

[joethiesmanfan]

We will see what happens when he plays. I am usre Matty will pull this post back up.

[MTK]

yep, whatever that means

[CRedskinsRule]

I am thinking of Vick trying to do an explosive 10 yard dash at Leavenworth, but all I see is alot of guards getting edgy pretty quickly.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am thinking of Vick trying to do an explosive 10 yard dash at Leavenworth, but all I see is alot of guards getting edgy pretty quickly.

In the 1960's yes. Now a days there is like 2 fences sometimes 3. Guards up in towers with M16's. K-9 officers walking between the fences making sure there is not escapee's. and I'm sure all the guards knew who MV was so to see him running around the yard which is almost all they can do besides sitting or playing basketball or weight lifting outside then I seriously doubt they were getting edgy. Unless he had several inmates chasing him. LOL.