Vick conditionally reinstated by NFL (updated)

MdBluefinCrab · 07-24-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Id love to see Vic as a redskin, he already knows the WestCoast Offense.
For everyone saying no to Vic!!! Then who takes the reins if Campbell doesnt
show he's worthy??? Todd Collins(NOT..the offense has changed and he isnt a West Coast guy) Colt Brennan(If he was ready he'd be atleast the primary backup already)

Bring in VIC, hes a vet (at minimum hes the cheapest starting caliber backup QB out there),

Yep, you're right. If the lousy QB we have now doesn't work out, bring in the other lousy QB. Consistency, that's what this teams been missing!

CRedskinsRule · 07-24-2009, 03:39 PM

I am thinking of Vick trying to do an explosive 10 yard dash at Leavenworth, but all I see is alot of guards getting edgy pretty quickly.

firstdown · 07-24-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Vick is not going to play QB when he comes back to the NFL.

What NFL team/head coach is going to stake their 3 year plan around the instability of his skillset...let alone after a stagnant 2 year prison stint?

Who's the guy that said Vick was preparing in prison like he was doing a two year training camp at Levenworth Fed???...lol...

No matter how you try to spin it his prison time is a total liability against his current athletic state.

I'm so sure that is so true with an NFL player. While he might be a littly rusty his boby has not been taking the abuse for the past two years.

Can anyone think of a football player in his prime have two years off and not because of injury or a war and then come back?

SBXVII · 07-24-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am thinking of Vick trying to do an explosive 10 yard dash at Leavenworth, but all I see is alot of guards getting edgy pretty quickly.

In the 1960's yes. Now a days there is like 2 fences sometimes 3. Guards up in towers with M16's. K-9 officers walking between the fences making sure there is not escapee's. and I'm sure all the guards knew who MV was so to see him running around the yard which is almost all they can do besides sitting or playing basketball or weight lifting outside then I seriously doubt they were getting edgy. Unless he had several inmates chasing him. LOL.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 07-24-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am thinking of Vick trying to do an explosive 10 yard dash at Leavenworth, but all I see is alot of guards getting edgy pretty quickly.

SBXVII · 07-24-2009, 04:12 PM

I guess I should be lowering my expectations like some of the rest of you. I should just totally believe MV has lost everything and wonder why he's trying to make a comeback. or simply atleast believe he has lost atleast half of his ability and think his only way of coming back is for him to be moved to WR. Where all the teams who are interested must want to put him.

The man never played WR but that's the only place he will be able to come back to in the NFL. right. gotcha. I just hope he gets the routes right. Be honest with yourselves. If you guys said RB I would think it's a possibility. Give him the ball and let him run to day light. but basically that's similar to the Wild Cat. I wouldn't call Portis or ARE the best QB's in the world either and they were not drafted to be in that position but they have made decent passes in the past. You can't tell me MV could not make those types of plays? I guess I'm crazy. No different then you guys are thinking teams are looking to move him to WR. A position he never played. Your right about one thing. He would be a work in progress if moved to that position.

He would be an upgrade for Jacksonville at QB. Maybe even Houston. San Fran's questionable. Minn easily unless they pick up Favre.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 07-24-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

He would be an upgrade for Jacksonville at QB. Maybe even Houston. San Fran's questionable. Minn easily unless they pick up Favre.

Jax - No way. Garrard has a hefty contract and he's better than Vick. 60, 64, 62% completion rate last three years. QB rating: 80.5, 102.2, 81.7
Houston - No way, Schaub was a better passing QB than Vick when he was in ATL. The only thing that forced Schaub out was Vick's contract.
SF - I don't know who'll be the starter there, but Shaun Hill's numbers from 2008 aren't terrible.
Minn - Right now, I'd definitely take T. Jackson over Vick. 59% comp %, 9TDs vs. 2INTs, 95.4 QB rating in 2008.

Right now Vick is a niche player in the Wildcat or a "change of pace" running QB at best. I agree with you about him moving to WR, I don't think he has the hands or route running skills to even make most rosters at WR.

Lotus · 07-24-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I just like saying Romo never won a playoff game. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Did someone say that Romo has never won a playoff game?

MTK · 07-24-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Jax - No way. Garrard has a hefty contract and he's better than Vick. 60, 64, 62% completion rate last three years. QB rating: 80.5, 102.2, 81.7
Houston - No way, Schaub was a better passing QB than Vick when he was in ATL. The only thing that forced Schaub out was Vick's contract.
SF - I don't know who'll be the starter there, but Shaun Hill's numbers from 2008 aren't terrible.
Minn - Right now, I'd definitely take T. Jackson over Vick. 59% comp %, 9TDs vs. 2INTs, 95.4 QB rating in 2008.

Right now Vick is a niche player in the Wildcat or a "change of pace" running QB at best. I agree with you about him moving to WR, I don't think he has the hands or route running skills to even make most rosters at WR.

I agree there's no way he's an upgrade in Jax or Houston. Not even close.

MTK · 07-24-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I guess I should be lowering my expectations like some of the rest of you. I should just totally believe MV has lost everything and wonder why he's trying to make a comeback.

It's going to take him a while to get back up to speed. 2 years away from the game for a QB that was still in the process of developing his game when he left is a pretty big deal.

SmootSmack · 07-24-2009, 07:55 PM

Vick's value to the Jags wouldn't be so much as a starter as their backup QB situation is piss poor at best, and the franchise and the city needs a big boost in ticket sales in a huge way

skinsfan_nn · 07-24-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think anyone is going to pick him up. I just don't see it. This time of year rosters are set. Outside of Oakland I don't see anyone who wants to put up with the drama. He's going to have to go to the new league and try and knock off the rust, then try something next year.

For some reason I have a feeling you will be proven very wrong in believing that. Vick will be signed right away, in the NFL. Some team will take a chance, there is more than one dallas out there. There could even be a bidding war over his services.

Long as the SKINS don't have anything to do with this fool, could care less. But there will be a taker.

SeanTaGodsSafety · 07-26-2009, 01:48 AM

Im not with it at all. But I could see Dan pullin the trigger on it just because he loves being mentioned in the media. He loves exposure. Wow are we really discussing this as an option?

SBXVII · 07-26-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaGodsSafety

Im not with it at all. But I could see Dan pullin the trigger on it just because he loves being mentioned in the media. He loves exposure. Wow are we really discussing this as an option?

I believe JC is the better QB in that situation. He knows the offense, and he's a pocket passer who can scramble. MV is a roll out type of QB. He was not all that great at sitting in the pocket and some have speculated it's because of his height and seeing over the lineman.

MV at this point for most teams would only be a trick play QB. Especially for the Skins. I know DS gets what he wants but I still think Zorn has some say. Unless Zorn is looking for trick plays or looking into the Wild Cat I don't see MV signing with the Skins.

I agree MV has lost a step due to not training on the field or with WR's. I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm just saying I think he would be up to speed faster then most of you think even if he's only half as good as he was.

Monkeydad · 07-27-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Please go to Dallas.

This is both what I want...and what will likely happen.

07-24-2009, 03:39 PM	#77
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 59 Posts: 21,744	Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games I am thinking of Vick trying to do an explosive 10 yard dash at Leavenworth, but all I see is alot of guards getting edgy pretty quickly.

07-24-2009, 04:12 PM	#81
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games I guess I should be lowering my expectations like some of the rest of you. I should just totally believe MV has lost everything and wonder why he's trying to make a comeback. or simply atleast believe he has lost atleast half of his ability and think his only way of coming back is for him to be moved to WR. Where all the teams who are interested must want to put him. The man never played WR but that's the only place he will be able to come back to in the NFL. right. gotcha. I just hope he gets the routes right. Be honest with yourselves. If you guys said RB I would think it's a possibility. Give him the ball and let him run to day light. but basically that's similar to the Wild Cat. I wouldn't call Portis or ARE the best QB's in the world either and they were not drafted to be in that position but they have made decent passes in the past. You can't tell me MV could not make those types of plays? I guess I'm crazy. No different then you guys are thinking teams are looking to move him to WR. A position he never played. Your right about one thing. He would be a work in progress if moved to that position. He would be an upgrade for Jacksonville at QB. Maybe even Houston. San Fran's questionable. Minn easily unless they pick up Favre.

07-24-2009, 07:55 PM	#86
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games Vick's value to the Jags wouldn't be so much as a starter as their backup QB situation is piss poor at best, and the franchise and the city needs a big boost in ticket sales in a huge way __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-26-2009, 01:48 AM	#88
SeanTaGodsSafety Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 70	Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games Im not with it at all. But I could see Dan pullin the trigger on it just because he loves being mentioned in the media. He loves exposure. Wow are we really discussing this as an option? __________________ "It's almost like we play a kids game for a king's ransom, and if you dont take it seriously enough, one day you're gonna say, oh I could have did this or I could have did that" Sean Taylor

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