New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters

[12thMan]

FWIW, I get the sense that Brees would like to run for office in New Orleans after football. He's been very clear that he and his wife are committed to the city, if not the team, for the long haul and plans on being there.

[Alvin Walton]

Jonathan Vilma - New Orleans Saints - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

[SmootSmack]

Think of the leverage Brees has now

[GMScud]

Well, to be fair I updated the thread title. Williams not only made no attempt to deny it, he apologized for it and said he knew it was wrong when he was doing it. Yikes.

Sean Payton knew about it NO, but I've gotta believe that Gibbs didn't know about it here.

[Alvin Walton]

Washington Redskins, New Orleans Saints had bounty systems that paid for big hits [updated] - The Insider - The Washington Post

This does not make Daniels look good.
I bet he gets the boot.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, to be fair I updated the thread title. Williams not only made no attempt to deny it, he apologized for it and said he knew it was wrong when he was doing it. Yikes.

Sean Payton knew about it NO, but I've gotta believe that Gibbs didn't know about it here.

Do you HONESTLY think Joe Gibbs knew NOTHING about this? C'mon... Joe Gibbs may be an aw shucks kind of guy but behind closed doors you're talking about a VERY competitive person. A lot of fans don't remember this but he once ran up the score on Joe Bugel.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Do you HONESTLY think Joe Gibbs knew NOTHING about this? C'mon... Joe Gibbs may be an aw shucks kind of guy but behind closed doors you're talking about a VERY competitive person. A lot of fans don't remember this but he once ran up the score on Joe Bugel.

I believe Gibbs 100%.

He always let his DC run that side of the ball. Plus he would have no reason to lie about it now, and if you know anything about him as a person he would never allow such a thing.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I believe Gibbs 100%.

He always let his DC run that side of the ball. Plus he would have no reason to lie about it now, and if you know anything about him as a person he would never allow such a thing.

I don't believe him cause he doesn't want us to lose any picks or get in trouble with the league. We're talking about a guy who lost OTA practices cause they were getting too physical. I just find it real hard to believe that he knew NOTHING about it. Besides we're not talking about bounties to hurt a player... a la Buddy Ryan and the Dallas kicker. We're talking about some extra incentive for hits, turnovers and so forth. We'll agree to disagree.

[SmootSmack]

There were a lot of things Williams kept from Gibbs, which was one reason Snyder was always kind of suspicious of him. I'm guessing this was one if them

On the other hand, Gibbs had to have some idea of Williams' way since he was essentially a Buddy Ryan clone, one of the few people Gibbs legitimately could not stand

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There were a lot of things Williams kept from Gibbs, which was one reason Snyder was always kind of suspicious of him. I'm guessing this was one if them

On the other hand, Gibbs had to have some idea of Williams' way since he was essentially a Buddy Ryan clone, one of the few people Gibbs legitimately could not stand

That's too bad, ironically, GW was about the main reason Gibbs won 10 games twice. Maybe Gibbs should have paid our players for TD's those years. I kid...

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There were a lot of things Williams kept from Gibbs, which was one reason Snyder was always kind of suspicious of him. I'm guessing this was one if them

On the other hand, Gibbs had to have some idea of Williams' way since he was essentially a Buddy Ryan clone, one of the few people Gibbs legitimately could not stand

The 10 man defense for instance.

[SkinzWin]

They were talking about this on SiriusXM NFL Radio this afternoon. They interviewed several former players who basically admitted that this is a wide-spread thing across the league and has been for a long time. However, the difference is it is usually done as a player-only funded and involved thing as a motivator in games. Not with the purpose of putting someone on a stretcher, end their career, etc. But to make a good, legal hit. A lot of it directed toward special teams play in particular. I can see something like this going on all the time in the league. The way it sounded like Gregg Williams ran it, however, seems like a different case. This definitely puts a twist on things. I hope he doesn't drag down the Skins organization with him.

Explain to me how the Saints get nailed and no one is saying anything about Gregg getting penalized now? Or could he be suspended while with the Rams? It always rubbed me the wrong way that Pete Carroll never got any penalties for what happened at USC. Sweatervest Boy at Ohio State got penalized before he could do anything with the Colts.

[SmootSmack]

From what I understand the NFL investigation was only about the Saints, not the Redskins

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From what I understand the NFL investigation was only about the Saints, not the Redskins

It will be real disappointing if it should result in punitive action against the team......
Never did like GW....Good D coach though.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From what I understand the NFL investigation was only about the Saints, not the Redskins

So is there like a statue of limitations on certain crimes? Lol