New Orleans Saints/Washington Redskins: Bounty Hunters

MTK · 03-03-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Do you HONESTLY think Joe Gibbs knew NOTHING about this? C'mon... Joe Gibbs may be an aw shucks kind of guy but behind closed doors you're talking about a VERY competitive person. A lot of fans don't remember this but he once ran up the score on Joe Bugel.

I believe Gibbs 100%.

He always let his DC run that side of the ball. Plus he would have no reason to lie about it now, and if you know anything about him as a person he would never allow such a thing.

skinsfan69 · 03-03-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I believe Gibbs 100%.

He always let his DC run that side of the ball. Plus he would have no reason to lie about it now, and if you know anything about him as a person he would never allow such a thing.

I don't believe him cause he doesn't want us to lose any picks or get in trouble with the league. We're talking about a guy who lost OTA practices cause they were getting too physical. I just find it real hard to believe that he knew NOTHING about it. Besides we're not talking about bounties to hurt a player... a la Buddy Ryan and the Dallas kicker. We're talking about some extra incentive for hits, turnovers and so forth. We'll agree to disagree.

MTK · 03-03-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't believe him cause he doesn't want us to lose any picks or get in trouble with the league. We're talking about a guy who lost OTA practices cause they were getting too physical. I just find it real hard to believe that he knew NOTHING about it. Besides we're not talking about bounties to hurt a player... a la Buddy Ryan and the Dallas kicker. We're talking about some extra incentive for hits, turnovers and so forth. We'll agree to disagree.

The league isn't even looking at penalizing the Redskins 5 years and 2 head coaches later.

Having a physical OTA is not even in the same league as authorizing bounties. You're kidding yourself if you think the bounties didn't involve extra cash for injuring players.

skinsfan69 · 03-03-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

The league isn't even looking at penalizing the Redskins 5 years and 2 head coaches later.

Having a physical OTA is not even in the same league as authorizing bounties. You're kidding yourself if you think the bounties didn't involve extra cash for injuring players.

Yes to inflict pain. That's football. Right? Guys on the Saints were not trying to end anyone's career.

GMScud · 03-03-2012, 05:01 PM

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Yes to inflict pain. That's football. Right? Guys on the Saints were not trying to end anyone's career.

Where do you draw the line? From what I understand, the investigation found that bonuses were higher if you knocked an opponent out for the game. With how fast football moves, how can you differentiate trying to knock someone out for a game, season, or career? What, their LB's say, hey, I'm just gonna sprain his knee a little bit? Please man.

skinsfan69 · 03-03-2012, 07:49 PM

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Where do you draw the line? From what I understand, the investigation found that bonuses were higher if you knocked an opponent out for the game. With how fast football moves, how can you differentiate trying to knock someone out for a game, season, or career? What, their LB's say, hey, I'm just gonna sprain his knee a little bit? Please man.

I haven't seen any Saints players twisting anyone knees. That's silly. First of all if they're caught the penalty is too severe. The fine from the league would surpass any cash from the team's pot. GW isn't going around telling his guys to intentionally hurt a guy and Sharper backed that up. If you knock someone out of the game then so be it....as long as it's a clean hit.

GMScud · 03-03-2012, 10:01 PM

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I haven't seen any Saints players twisting anyone knees. That's silly. First of all if they're caught the penalty is too severe. The fine from the league would surpass any cash from the team's pot. GW isn't going around telling his guys to intentionally hurt a guy and Sharper backed that up. If you knock someone out of the game then so be it....as long as it's a clean hit.

Are you serious? GW started a bounty program that gave EXTRA rewards for knocking key players out of the game. Is knocking someone out of a game not hurting them?

As long as it's a clean hit, huh? You're high as a kite if you really think GW said, hey, let's knock Kurt Warner's ass out of this ball game, I'll pay you thousands for, but gosh darn it, it better be clean! LOL. Yeah. Unless it's a random accident like, for example, when a guy's foot gets stuck in the turf and his knee gets all twisted up when tackled, guys typically don't get knocked out of a game on a clean hit or form tackle. What does typically knock guys out of games are head shots, giving QB's that extra drive into the turf on a sack, tackling a guy at his knees, etc etc. And hey, if you did that in GW's defense, you get extra cheddar. It might draw a flag, but that dude's hurt, and you get that bounty. That's all good, right?

GMScud · 03-03-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I haven't seen any Saints players twisting anyone knees. That's silly. First of all if they're caught the penalty is too severe. The fine from the league would surpass any cash from the team's pot. GW isn't going around telling his guys to intentionally hurt a guy and Sharper backed that up. If you knock someone out of the game then so be it....as long as it's a clean hit.

Hmm. Not so silly it seems.

NFL.com news: Peterson is latest opponent to call out Saints for dirty play

AP: "Guys are going to try to take their shots when we're on the pile and try to twist it up and things like that. "I felt like it kind of got overboard. I got up and kind of got in his face. Thank God I was able to keep my composure."

Maybe Darren Sharper shouldn't be believed:

Peterson's accusations come one week after members of the Titans called Saints safety Roman Harper dirty for his play during the New Orleans' 22-17 win. The NFL fined Harper $15,000 for roughing the passer on a helmet-to-helmet hit in that game and another $7,500 for unnecessary roughness.