Around the NFL week 10

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Andrew Luck can tackle, too?

I watched the guy at Stanford for 4 years and the guy is one tough hombre, he has a RB mentality and will punish the defensive player if he has to, saw it many times.

[skinsfaninok]

I have watched them a few times this year and they don't have any special players especially on defense. Im just bitter I guess but I'm just so tired of losing.

[SFREDSKIN]

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;962621]I have watched them a few times this year and they don't have any special players especially on defense. Im just bitter I guess but I'm just so tired of

Greg Manusky is the name I forgot. Would you rather have Haslett or Manusky? It's obvious.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

As much as I love RGIII Luck is slightly better, he doesn't need college plays to be successful, very comfortable in the pocket (helps to have played in a pro style offense).

Whatever happened to your boy Justin Blackmon? Ever since his DUI he's nowhere to be found.

Agreed. luck is excelling by playing a brand of football that's proven to win Super Bowls. I love RG3 as much as the next Skins fan, but he would struggle without the scheme they've established for him. Long term, they will both dominate. Luck's just a little ahead right now.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Agreed. luck is excelling by playing a brand of football that's proven to win Super Bowls. I love RG3 as much as the next Skins fan, but he would struggle without the scheme they've established for him. Long term, they will both dominate. Luck's just a little ahead right now.

I'll say it again, Barring injury Luck will break Manning's records

[skinsfaninok]

It just seems like our staff is always a step behind. Idk maybe we r just that bad

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Luck is great no doubt but so is Griffin, and IMO they are too worried about running him instead of letting him drop back and pass. It's extremely annoying, look at Miami, Seattle, Indy. All teams with rookie qbs, Miami literally has nobody on offense besides bush and all those teams are in playoff contention. Us? Oh no we are on some BS 5 year plan... Blah blah blah sos for the redskins every season around this time. Always out of the hunt before Thanksgiving

Presidents are given four years to put their plan in place for an entire country. Shanny gets five to rebuild a football team. Lol.

[Ruhskins]

I think the Colts may be an example of leadership/motivation playing a big role in their success. On paper, outside of Luck, many pundits had them labeled as one of the worst teams in the league. Now I am not saying that they have a bunch of nobodies (they do have the likes of R. Wayne and Freeney), but they are a very young team with a roster that wasn't impressing anybody.

I believe from day one, that coaching staff (Pagano and then Arians) have had that team playing with an us against the world attitude. And while I am not going to say that leadership/motivation will overcome utter lack of talent; I do feel that leadership/motivation has brought the best out of a team that really wasn't expected to do much. Unless something goes completely wrong, I could easily see them going 9-7 or easily 10-6.

[Mechanix544]

I still say RG3 will have the better career. Just not with the Shanahans.

[SFREDSKIN]

Need to Know: Why Luck has been hot, RG3 not - Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

HTTR

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I still say RG3 will have the better career. Just not with the Shanahans.

If RGIII was with Indy they would be just as good or even better. Our teams qb isn't the problem its the coaching staff. Griffin can hit a lot of the throws Luck makes and can read defenses very well(that is an area where Luck is head and shoulders above our guy but that's about it).

Luck has been playing in a pro style offense for four years. On top of having a dad who played in the NFL before. Roberts had none of those advantages. Despite that Andrew just now playing better than our QB. And only by a small margin.

Now the question is would Luck still look just as good here with the Skins current roster? I think not. The fact that Griffin has looked so good with no recievers and a shoddy O line says wonders about his skill set and talent.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Bishop Hammer

Now the question is would Luck still look just as good here with the Skins current roster? I think not. The fact that Griffin has looked so good with no recievers and a shoddy O line says wonders about his skill set and talent.

I disagree, Luck would just as successful with the Redskins as with the Colts. The Steelers figured a way to contain RGIII and Carolina copied Pittsburgh's strategy. Luck is ahead of the curve playing in the pocket due to his experience in a pro style offense, RGIII is learning very quickly but not there yet. The Shanahan's have the cuffs on RGIII while Luck has free reign, the Colts offense has been on the field longer than their D, that is why they are winning games. The 3 games the Redskins won was due to their Offense controlling the game. RGIII hasn't been helped by injuries to Garcon, Davis, Helu and lots of dropped balls by the WR's.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I still say RG3 will have the better career. Just not with the Shanahans.

He might ,I'm not saying he won't
But he's not worth Luck and 3 first rd picks

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I disagree, Luck would just as successful with the Redskins as with the Colts. The Steelers figured a way to contain RGIII and Carolina copied Pittsburgh's strategy. Luck is ahead of the curve playing in the pocket due to his experience in a pro style offense, RGIII is learning very quickly but not there yet. The Shanahan's have the cuffs on RGIII while Luck has free reign, the Colts offense has been on the field longer than their D, that is why they are winning games. The 3 games the Redskins won was due to their Offense controlling the game. RGIII hasn't been helped by injuries to Garcon, Davis, Helu and lots of dropped balls by the WR's.

Pittsburgh figured out our players on offense suck besides Griffin, same as Carolina. Who does RG3 have to throw to? Luck at least has a HOF WR with him. And a pretty damn good line

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Pittsburgh figured out our players on offense suck besides Griffin, same as Carolina. Who does RG3 have to throw to? Luck at least has a HOF WR with him. And a pretty damn good line

Their line is no better than the skins, it's called "pocket presence". RGIII will get there, he's not as polished as Luck in that area. Like I said having having played in a pro style offense helps Luck.