Iran Supplying Weapons to Iraq?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

What people? And since when were they in Iraq?

He said ignore the middle east.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

Maybe WE should have ignored them in the 40's and 50's. I still maintain though, that the best solution to all of this is to kick our dependence on oil...so they wouldn't have us by the short hairs anymore

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

Maybe WE should have ignored them in the 40's and 50's. I still maintain though, that the best solution to all of this is to kick our dependence on oil...so they wouldn't have us by the short hairs anymore

That's a good start, no doubt. But big business is tightly knitted with politics and vice versa, so I honestly don't see that happening in our generation.

It could, but unlikely.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

That's a good start, no doubt. But big business is tightly knitted with politics and vice versa, so I honestly don't see that happening in our generation.

It could, but unlikely.

This goes back to my other solution. Put term limits on senate and house seats and big business's grasp on politics would loosen considerably...


AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace in 08

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

This goes back to my other solution. Put term limits on senate and house seats and big business's grasp on politics would loosen considerably...


AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace in 08

hahaha...nice.

dude, who's on your ticket?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

That's a good start, no doubt. But big business is tightly knitted with politics and vice versa, so I honestly don't see that happening in our generation.

It could, but unlikely.

I think most people would agree with that and I'm not sure that big business has stood in the way as one said. I think the problem is that we have purchased gas so cheap for so long there was no demand or alternative fuels at a higher cost. The cars are more expensive and the fuel is more expensive which one is the consumer going to buy?

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

I don't have a running mate...you want in?

AWNB and 12thMan..better Redskins today, A better America tomorrow!!!!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

I don't have a running mate...you want in?

AWNB and 12thMan..better Redskins today, A better America tomorrow!!!!

I'm starting to like you AWNB...this idea is growing on me.

Oh, and..please, call me 12th.

[dmek25]

and i think the main reason that the world hates us is because we are that naive to think that we can force our lifestyle on anyone we so choose. to me, unless a direct cry for help comes from any country, we take care of those that WANT our help

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by dmek25

and i think the main reason that the world hates us is because we are that naive to think that we can force our lifestyle on anyone we so choose. to me, unless a direct cry for help comes from any country, we take care of those that WANT our help

The world hates us (and oftentimes loves) us for a lot of reasons, depending on who you ask. Some hate us because of our foriegn policy, others for our social attitudes and domestic politics (which many in the West view as overly conservative and many in the Middle East view as overly permissive), and others hate us because we are the world's sole superpower and are therefore to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world (see the speeches of every nutjob foreign dictator who uses as a scapegoat for everything).

As for forcing our lifestyle on others......we've done it before and it's worked (e.g., Germany, Japan, South Korea, Haiti, Bosnia) and we've also done it before when it failed (e.g., Vietnam, Somalia, and now Iraq). I don't believe the cry that you can NEVER force democracy on others.

I also believe very strongly that people do in fact (usually) yearn for democracy. When society is embroiled in chaos, people want order and dictators or ayatollahs and their militias can provide that. When society is not suffering from internal military conflict, they want democracy. It doesn't matter what you race or country's history is, everyone wants democracy after the guns have quieted.

[jbcjr14]

When does football start again??????

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jbcjr14

When does football start again??????

Seriously. As much as I love anything related to history or politics, it sucks having to talk about Iraq as opposed to the Cover 2 etc.

[dmek25]

probably the bottom line is that neither wanted our help

[dmek25]

somewhere along the way, the united states has forgotten how to fight a war. in war, there will be death and injury. to those who deserve, and the undeserving. trying to keep the undeserving out of it, as much as possible, and basically destroying anything , or anyone that stands in our way. we are way too worried about offending, to fight effectively. we are also way to interested in ground fighting. if someone wants to pick a fight with us, lets show them why we are the only superpower. we should have bombed bin laden, or at least until he was handed over. that would have opened the worlds eyes. not this pussyfooting around we are doing in iraq right now

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by dmek25

somewhere along the way, the united states has forgotten how to fight a war. in war, there will be death and injury. to those who deserve, and the undeserving. trying to keep the undeserving out of it, as much as possible, and basically destroying anything , or anyone that stands in our way. we are way too worried about offending, to fight effectively. we are also way to interested in ground fighting. if someone wants to pick a fight with us, lets show them why we are the only superpower. we should have bombed bin laden, or at least until he was handed over. that would have opened the worlds eyes. not this pussyfooting around we are doing in iraq right now

real-time media happened, vietnam happened. things change.