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[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'd pass on him as Washington.

IMO, the only unpassible player is Joe Thomas. If he's there at 6 (no chance, Detroit and Arizona won't both pass on him) then I think we should select him.

now why would we do that

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'd pass on him as Washington.

IMO, the only unpassible player is Joe Thomas. If he's there at 6 (no chance, Detroit and Arizona won't both pass on him) then I think we should select him.

Yeah I'm a little confused by that one myself. We just signed Jansen to an extension and we still have Samuels in his prime and under a long contract. What would we do, convert Thomas to a guard? Seems like a waste.

I don't think we'd ever draft Joe Thomas at 6 under any circumstances.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I'm a little confused by that one myself. We just signed Jansen to an extension and we still have Samuels in his prime and under a long contract. What would we do, convert Thomas to a guard? Seems like a waste.

I don't think we'd ever draft Joe Thomas at 6 under any circumstances.

amen to that

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I'm a little confused by that one myself. We just signed Jansen to an extension and we still have Samuels in his prime and under a long contract. What would we do, convert Thomas to a guard? Seems like a waste.

I don't think we'd ever draft Joe Thomas at 6 under any circumstances.

Might convert him to a guard. Might wait a year and make sure that Samuels and particularly Jansen hold up injury-wise. Either way, we get the best available player in the draft and some eventually necessary youth on the o line.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Might convert him to a guard. Might wait a year and make sure that Samuels and particularly Jansen hold up injury-wise. Either way, we get the best available player in the draft and some eventually necessary youth on the o line.

um the best player in the draft is calvin johnson not joe thomas

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I'm a little confused by that one myself. We just signed Jansen to an extension and we still have Samuels in his prime and under a long contract. What would we do, convert Thomas to a guard? Seems like a waste.

I don't think we'd ever draft Joe Thomas at 6 under any circumstances.

I don't see that happpening either.

[JoeRedskin]

With Minnesota, Houston and Miami immediately picking after us, Quinn likely still on the board, and all three in need of a QB - there may be a bit of a bidding war for a slightly earlier spot. BUT, those teams could, in turn, play us against Arizona since they seem to be targeting the same three players we are and wouldn't likely lose the opportunity to draft one of them by doing the trade.

Of course, this assumes that those three teams think Quinn is worth two picks in this year's draft. Who knows - I doubt it.

[sportscurmudgeon]

I thought Joe Thomas was the second coming of Orlando Pace - - - until I saw the Florida/Ohio State game.

Whenever I saw Thomas, he dominated Big Ten defenders - and I mean he dominated them in the games I saw. Then I saw Big Ten defenders and offensive lineman get clowned by Florida and it made me wonder if Joe Thomas had played against "the best" in terms of collegiate athletic competition.

In the NFL, athleticism is a given for DEs and OLBs. So, is Thomas up to handling all of that or does he look really good only because he played against second-tier defenders in terms of athletic ability? Before anyone jerks their knee out of joint telling me how great the Big Ten is, I don't see any of the Big Ten DEs up there as "can't miss/impact players from Day One" this year... So, just whom did Joe Thomas protect his QB from???

If Thomas really is as good as he looked, then whoever gets him will have another Orlando Pace. Don't tell me that the Skins don't need that; Pace is twice as good as any OT the Skins have had since Joe Jacoby and Jim Lachey hung up their jockstraps.

But if Thomas looks a whole lot better than he really is ...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

I thought Joe Thomas was the second coming of Orlando Pace - - - until I saw the Florida/Ohio State game.

Whenever I saw Thomas, he dominated Big Ten defenders - and I mean he dominated them in the games I saw. Then I saw Big Ten defenders and offensive lineman get clowned by Florida and it made me wonder if Joe Thomas had played against "the best" in terms of collegiate athletic competition.

In the NFL, athleticism is a given for DEs and OLBs. So, is Thomas up to handling all of that or does he look really good only because he played against second-tier defenders in terms of athletic ability? Before anyone jerks their knee out of joint telling me how great the Big Ten is, I don't see any of the Big Ten DEs up there as "can't miss/impact players from Day One" this year... So, just whom did Joe Thomas protect his QB from???

If Thomas really is as good as he looked, then whoever gets him will have another Orlando Pace. Don't tell me that the Skins don't need that; Pace is twice as good as any OT the Skins have had since Joe Jacoby and Jim Lachey hung up their jockstraps.

But if Thomas looks a whole lot better than he really is ...

Additionally, we don't know how much longer we are going to be able to rely on Jansen. I didn't think giving him a new deal was the smartest thing given the circumstances.

I'm not sure theres a team in the league whos line is so good that they would find Thomas riding the bench.

[JoeRedskin]

There may be no unpassable players but there are a couple who fill a need (Peterson, Johnson, Quinn) for two or three of the teams immediately below us or who are such talents (Johnson, possibly Peterson) that someone may be tempted to trade up for them. As to the first case, since it is just one or two spots, they could get away with just switching spots and throwing one other pick.

I don't think either is likely in this case simply b/c of the way I expect the top five to shake out. I think our best shot at a trade is that Miami wants to leapfrog Minnesota to get Quinn but, again, I am betting that doesn't happen.

[freddyg12]

IF we were in good shape on D & had a stable of young players on that side of the ball, I think picking Joe Thomas would be very wise. Even if we drafted him this year I'd still say it's a good move, just maybe not the best decision for us at this time w/our d needs.
yeah, we just re-signed Jansen & Samuels is under contract, but both those guys will get hurt & we need to look towards the future as Jansen is gettin up there.
We definitely need to get some depth on the O line.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

IF we were in good shape on D & had a stable of young players on that side of the ball, I think picking Joe Thomas would be very wise. Even if we drafted him this year I'd still say it's a good move, just maybe not the best decision for us at this time w/our d needs.
yeah, we just re-signed Jansen & Samuels is under contract, but both those guys will get hurt & we need to look towards the future as Jansen is gettin up there.
We definitely need to get some depth on the O line.

Depth is one thing. Having two franchise LTs (and both getting paid as such) on the same roster is a different story. If you want quality depth, you use a 3rd or 4th rounder on a guy, not the 6th pick (and millions in guaranteed money).

The 6th pick needs to be a starter pretty much right away, not three years down the line when Jansen gets too old.

This is an absurd conversation. There's no way the Skins are going to pick Joe Thomas.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

This is an absurd conversation. There's no way the Skins are going to pick Joe Thomas.

I agree, because there is no way Thomas drops to 6.

I agree, because the Skins have not been sniffing around Joe Thomas.

In my opinion, Joe Thomas is the most talented player in this draft, and our offensive line situation (the most important unit on the offense) is not strong enough to dictate passing on Thomas.

Still our defensive line situation is most important and Branch should be the pick.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

In my opinion, Joe Thomas is the most talented player in this draft, and our offensive line situation (the most important unit on the offense) is not strong enough to dictate passing on Thomas.

Really? While our o-line was pretty inconsistent in 2004, it was pretty darn good in 2005 and 2006. The past two seasons the O-line has paved the way for a top-notch running attack and protected the QB better than the vast majority of teams.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Really? While our o-line was pretty inconsistent in 2004, it was pretty darn good in 2005 and 2006. The past two seasons the O-line has paved the way for a top-notch running attack and protected the QB better than the vast majority of teams.

And you don't think the addition of Joe Thomas would make it significnatly better?