The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Instead of starting a new thread:

Jay Glazer said that reportedly the asking price for Andrew Luck is going to be 3 first round picks. Would you do that? (Now 3 first rounders could be your 1st in 2012, 2014, 2016; it doesn't mean 2012,2013,2014)

Yes! Andrew Luck is The Truth!

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Instead of starting a new thread:

Jay Glazer said that reportedly the asking price for Andrew Luck is going to be 3 first round picks. Would you do that? (Now 3 first rounders could be your 1st in 2012, 2014, 2016; it doesn't mean 2012,2013,2014)

You are switching 2012 1st round picks, so essentially 2 other 1st rounders.

[SmootSmack]

Start a different thread on what is Andrew Luck worth

[MTK]

I'm really not a fan of Sanchez at all. But perhaps a change of scenery would do him good, and he's not as bad as some people make him out to be. But he's far from being an elite franchise QB too. I'd really have mixed feelings if we got him. I guess a lot would depend on what it would take to get him. Can we at least draft a guy to develop too??

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm really not a fan of Sanchez at all. But perhaps a change of scenery would do him good, and he's not as bad as some people make him out to be. But he's far from being an elite franchise QB too. I'd really have mixed feelings if we got him. I guess a lot would depend on what it would take to get him. Can we at least draft a guy to develop too??

I agree with this, but i think this 2nd round price tag being thrown around in this thread is to high. He has done nothing in his career to still be worth a #2. Maybe a #3...but that's about it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by celts32

I agree with this, but i think this 2nd round price tag being thrown around in this thread is to high. He has done nothing in his career to still be worth a #2. Maybe a #3...but that's about it.

I wouldn't be too troubled if the Redskins sent a third rounder for Mark Sanchez. I think that's probably not a great use of a third round pick, but you're getting more return on that pick than if you spent it on a quarterback in the third round. Mark Sanchez isn't a great QB, but I would take him rest of career over say, Terrelle Pryor (though I think it's close).

The biggest issue with Sanchez is this: he takes up $8.5 million of your 2012 salary cap, and it would be even worse if you extended him to save $4 million in cap dollars. So he's limiting your ability to use your cap room to improve in free agency, even at the cost of a third round pick.

If you think you can win in either 2012 or 2013 with Mark Sanchez at QB, then I would trade a third rounder for him. But if anyone thinks he's a long term answer, I disagree.

[SmootSmack]

And now the indications of Manning being interested in joining the Jets

New York Jets -- What does future hold for Mark Sanchez? - ESPN New York

Coming up soon, connecting Sanchez to the Redskins

[celts32]

Dont want Sanchez at all as the long term answer. If he were to replace Rex as the stop gap until our rookie is ready then fine but i don't believe think he is a franchise QB.

The only veteran QB that could possibly become available that I would accept as a long term answer is Bradford.

[GTripp0012]

Sanchez and Bradford are within a year of each other in age, and if you throw Colt McCoy into that group, I think there's a pretty good chance that at least one of them becomes a solid starting quarterback (and I wouldn't be shocked if that guy is Sanchez).

I think it's very clear and obvious that McCoy is the best of the three, but you're still talking about three very limited pro quarterbacks. If you want a quarterback who might actually be able to lead us instead of leading him, I'd grab RG3 or Foles if possible. If not, I would try free agency. There's a pretty good class out there.

Mostly, this rumor seems well-intentioned, but more like the Redskins are just looking in the wrong place for a quarterback. I mean, we just tried the "buy low, unproven" route and got Grossman and Beck. I'd rather target someone with more upside than Sanchez/McCoy/Bradford.

[12thMan]

GTripp, who has more upside than Colt, Sanchez, Bradford - Luck or RG3? We ain't getting neither my friend.

I think Bradford is the best of the three.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

GTripp, who has more upside than Colt, Sanchez, Bradford - Luck or RG3? We ain't getting neither my friend.

I think Bradford is the best of the three.

I'd say Bradford is probably the worst of those three. My whole thing with Bradford is that he seems to be getting held to a different standard. "He was really awesome in college in 2008" wouldn't fly as a defense for any other quarterback, but it's really where all the belief in Bradford is coming from.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't toss a fifth round pick for a 25 year old QB and try to ressurect his career, but Sam Bradford isn't showing up anywhere in Week 1 next year as a premier player. He's a project. He's young enough, but must be torn down and rebuilt back into the player he was in college. It can be done, but not quickly enough here to save Mike Shanahan's job. Bradford will not be here because of that.

Mark Sanchez isn't that far away from being a mid-level quality starter, but you know, neither is Rex Grossman. Sanchez is much younger, but we've put two (or three with Kyle) years into Rex Grossman. I'm not sure you'd give that up for a much younger version of Rex Grossman.

I still like Colt McCoy's upside. He was really effective as a vertical passer in 2010. He hasn't been good at it this year. I think getting McCoy out of the west coast offense could actually save his career. So I like his upside best of the three. Again, if you're giving up more than a fifth round pick, you're doing it wrong.

[GTripp0012]

Greg Cosell on Mark Sanchez:

Cosell Talks: You’re Seeing the Real Mark Sanchez : NFL Films Blog

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Greg Cosell on Mark Sanchez:

Cosell Talks: You’re Seeing the Real Mark Sanchez : NFL Films Blog

Good read.

[SBXVII]

I agree with the few that are tired of the team picking up other teams trash. But.... I was one of the fans who didn't think Sanchez would pan out and he actually supprised me with how well he did with the Jets. Plus he's young still. My only concern is the Jets don't seem to be getting better each year and that could be any number of problems. Mostly probably injuries.

My concern is why can't the Skins ever pick up a young QB in the draft and develope him into a champion? I'd prefer someone who could be molded into the Skins scheme vs. having to re-train a QB and having to hear how the coaching staff has to get rid of bad habits (ie; McNabbs footwork).

When I think of P.Manning and a possible trade I cringe but again if we were to get him cheap from Indy and draft a QB who could learn under P.Manning would be awesome. I'd also expect the team to find a way to utilize his crazy play calls and crazy changing of play calls. That alone would be worth it's weight in gold. When we are ready to make a change to a younger QB, hopefully after a SB, then we could offer a coaching job to P.Manning in order to keep his skills with the team.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I agree with the few that are tired of the team picking up other teams trash. But.... I was one of the fans who didn't think Sanchez would pan out and he actually supprised me with how well he did with the Jets. Plus he's young still. My only concern is the Jets don't seem to be getting better each year and that could be any number of problems. Mostly probably injuries.

My concern is why can't the Skins ever pick up a young QB in the draft and develope him into a champion? I'd prefer someone who could be molded into the Skins scheme vs. having to re-train a QB and having to hear how the coaching staff has to get rid of bad habits (ie; McNabbs footwork).

When I think of P.Manning and a possible trade I cringe but again if we were to get him cheap from Indy and draft a QB who could learn under P.Manning would be awesome. I'd also expect the team to find a way to utilize his crazy play calls and crazy changing of play calls. That alone would be worth it's weight in gold. When we are ready to make a change to a younger QB, hopefully after a SB, then we could offer a coaching job to P.Manning in order to keep his skills with the team.

Cause our front office doesn't work that way. They always want the quick fix. They've gotten better lately but you know their going to go out and try and trade for someone. If it's Bradford then I'd be ok with it cause he's young and looks the part. He's an accurate passer. But if it's McCoy or Sanzhez then they've proven that they still don't have a clue.