Around the Nfl week 5

[skinsfaninok]

This mnf game is boring as fff

[punch it in]

Phillip Rivers is such a good qb, and I feel like his career is wasted in SD.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Phillip Rivers is such a good qb, and I feel like his career is wasted in SD.

He's missing 3 starters on the OL, they are banged up.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He's missing 3 starters on the OL, they are banged up.

Are u saying that because its more impressive watching him work with the lack of help in front of him, or because if SD had those three back it wouldnt be a waste of his career?
The guy is such a good qb, but when you start rattling off the best he is always sort of an afterthought.
So many other teams that if he played on all these years would have resulted in championships, and he would be mentioned alot quicker in the best qb in the league conversation.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Phillip Rivers is such a good qb, and I feel like his career is wasted in SD.

Yeah but god damn is living in San Diego the good life!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Yeah but god damn is living in San Diego the good life!

Oh I know. I lived in Ocean Beach for a spell. Best weather on earth and so much to do. Plus really good mexican food.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Yeah but god damn is living in San Diego the good life!

Eh I prefer 4 seasons but i wouldn't be mad living there.

[Giantone]

This is terrible,prayers out to him and his family


Giants TE Daniel Fells....................

Doctors optimistic Daniel Fells of New York Giants won't lose foot from MRSA infection

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

This is terrible,prayers out to him and his family





Giants TE Daniel Fells....................



Doctors optimistic Daniel Fells of New York Giants won't lose foot from MRSA infection

Glad they will probably save his foot. Thats the important thing.

[skinsfaninok]

What a finish last night, vick played great in the 4th I knew it was a matter of time for him to have a big play or 2

[JoeRedskin]

I stopped watching at the half and thought "Wow ... Vick really sucks."

What did he do in the fourth that turned it around?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I stopped watching at the half and thought "Wow ... Vick really sucks."



What did he do in the fourth that turned it around?

Made a couple plays with his feet. Scrambled around and tossed one deep, about a 30 yard run rite down their gut. Appeared rather fast on the run. He definitely saved their asses in the fourth.
Edit: had me thinking about what Griff is capable of. However I quickly put that thought to rest for my sanity's sake.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Made a couple plays with his feet. Scrambled around and tossed one deep, about a 30 yard run rite down their gut. Appeared rather fast on the run. He definitely saved their asses in the fourth.
Edit: had me thinking about what Griff is capable of. However I quickly put that thought to rest for my sanity's sake.

It's funny you should say that. When I was watching his sucky first half - scrambling around, taking sacks, making inaccurate throws, failing to take what the defense was giving, etc., I thought "Man, he looks just like Griffin." Then they flashed his horrible accuracy rating and his sack percentage (highest of any QB with 1000 snaps) and I thought "Yup - exactly like Griffin." (Maybe not the accuracy part).

So, yeah, Vick and Griffin have a lot of comparables both from the positive and negative aspect. Even in his prime, I thought it would be impossible to build a regular winner around Vick b/c - although undeniable - his talent was so unique and his style so reckless that, in any offense designed for him to be successful, the rest of the team was screwed if he went down. That was pretty much (except the comeback year in Philly) the story of his career and is why - IMHO - the long term success of QB's like Vick and RGIII is so limited.

KC is not a good QB. BUT, you can plug any number of not-RGIII's or Michael Vick's into Jay's system and have the same or better success. With this offense, the rest of the team can develop consistency and good "football anticipation" (i.e. knowing how plays work and what your teammates are going to do so that you can focus on the D or the play's second level) until we find a QB who won't throw it to the other team at critical moments.

I am on the fence about Gruden - not convinced he or his system makes players "better." At the same time, his system is consistent with so many others out there such that, if a switch is eventually made, it will hopefully not require the "burn it to the ground" approach that Kelly felt necessary in Philly.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

KC is not a good QB. BUT, you can plug any number of not-RGIII's or Michael Vick's into Jay's system and have the same or better success. With this offense, the rest of the team can develop consistency and good "football anticipation" (i.e. knowing how plays work and what your teammates are going to do so that you can focus on the D or the play's second level) until we find a QB who won't throw it to the other team at critical moments.

Kirk managing a clock-eating 90-yard 4th qtr drive to beat Philly and a long drive with less than 45 seconds left to send the Atlanta game into OT in back-to-back weeks isn't good enough for you? He is a developing QB and you seem to expect him to play like John Elway on a weekly basis. That's not realistic or fair, IMO.

Jay Gruden says Kirk is getting better and I'll take his word for it. In due time, we'll find out if he's a keeper but I think it's still too soon to judge.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Kirk managing a clock-eating 90-yard 4th qtr drive to beat Philly and a long drive with less than 45 seconds left to send the Atlanta game into OT in back-to-back weeks isn't good enough for you? He is a developing QB and you seem to expect him to play like John Elway on a weekly basis. That's not realistic or fair, IMO.

Jay Gruden says Kirk is getting better and I'll take his word for it. In due time, we'll find out if he's a keeper but I think it's still too soon to judge.

I would like to see him improve as the season goes on, not see so much up and down play. It's what I expected but I would like to see the uneven play sort of even out. Hopefully he gets Reed and Jackson back at some point.

I would also like to see KC get a full off season as the unquestioned starter so he gets all those reps. We may not see the real improvement until next year. But we MUST draft a QB next year. Maybe someone in the 3rd or 4h round.