Around the Nfl week 5

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Made a couple plays with his feet. Scrambled around and tossed one deep, about a 30 yard run rite down their gut. Appeared rather fast on the run. He definitely saved their asses in the fourth.
Edit: had me thinking about what Griff is capable of. However I quickly put that thought to rest for my sanity's sake.

It's funny you should say that. When I was watching his sucky first half - scrambling around, taking sacks, making inaccurate throws, failing to take what the defense was giving, etc., I thought "Man, he looks just like Griffin." Then they flashed his horrible accuracy rating and his sack percentage (highest of any QB with 1000 snaps) and I thought "Yup - exactly like Griffin." (Maybe not the accuracy part).

So, yeah, Vick and Griffin have a lot of comparables both from the positive and negative aspect. Even in his prime, I thought it would be impossible to build a regular winner around Vick b/c - although undeniable - his talent was so unique and his style so reckless that, in any offense designed for him to be successful, the rest of the team was screwed if he went down. That was pretty much (except the comeback year in Philly) the story of his career and is why - IMHO - the long term success of QB's like Vick and RGIII is so limited.

KC is not a good QB. BUT, you can plug any number of not-RGIII's or Michael Vick's into Jay's system and have the same or better success. With this offense, the rest of the team can develop consistency and good "football anticipation" (i.e. knowing how plays work and what your teammates are going to do so that you can focus on the D or the play's second level) until we find a QB who won't throw it to the other team at critical moments.

I am on the fence about Gruden - not convinced he or his system makes players "better." At the same time, his system is consistent with so many others out there such that, if a switch is eventually made, it will hopefully not require the "burn it to the ground" approach that Kelly felt necessary in Philly.