2022 Commanders Training Camp discussion

[skinsfan69]

I was listening to 106.7 and they were saying that the tension was based on the players either not liking or respecting Mills coaching style. They were more comfortable w/ Zgonina so Ron made the move. Apparently there had been some tension there for a long time. That must have been a real difficult firing for Ron.

I just feel like as a group they're just a middle of the pack d-line, w/ or w/out Mills. If they're better then prove it. Yeah sometimes firing a coach can help but the coach isn't on the field blocking the linemen in front of you. Either you win your one on one match-up or you don't. No more excuses for these guys now.

[FrenchSkin]

Timing sure is weird. But with this D overall, and DL in particular underperforming their talent by quite some bit, I have no issue with a DL coaching change. They were not in synch with him from day 1.

[Chief X_Phackter]

At least his replacement has played on the D-line, and played in the NFL for 17 seasons. Mills III never played a down in the NFL. I'm not sure he played in College either. Not that being a former NFL player is a prerequisite for being a good NFL Coach. But if I were a NFL player, I would have a hard time listening to - how to do something, from someone who has never done it at this level, or perhaps any level.

Anyway, I think Mills III was close to RR and coached for him for a long time - was brought over from the Panthers days. It shows that RR's not afraid to shake things up / make changes for the betterment of the team, even if it means letting someone like Mills III go.

[Chico23231]

Listening to Sheehan podcast with Doc the other day, which you should listen too, Doc is fucking hyped and gets on a roll…

Apparently Payne has been ripping people up in camp, since we cleared some room on the dline…if Payne breaks out and has a big season, I would be done with bringing him back

[mooby]

Payne having a good season is nice - I would rather hope that all these type A personalities can mesh so everybody can have a good season. The thing these star players have a hard time realizing is when Lebron signs up with Bosh and Wade, they can't all be Lebron every play. Sometimes they gotta take a back seat and sometimes they get to have the big day. Just depends who the opponent wants to prioritize - they can't prioritize everybody all at once so some days they'll double Chase which opens things up for everyone else. Then everyone else plays well so they go and double Montez. Then Allen or Payne does well and they double Allen or Payne. The truly dominant defensive lines understood that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Listening to Sheehan podcast with Doc the other day, which you should listen too, Doc is fucking hyped and gets on a roll…

Apparently Payne has been ripping people up in camp, since we cleared some room on the dline…if Payne breaks out and has a big season, I would be done with bringing him back

I'd be fine with playing the franchise tag game with him if that's what it comes down to.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'd be fine with playing the franchise tag game with him if that's what it comes down to.

I agree. The franchise tag is a useful tool to use...once per player.

[skinsfaninok]

I swear the media HATES Wentz, it's the weirdest thing. Like what did that dude do to people??

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I swear the media HATES Wentz, it's the weirdest thing. Like what did that dude do to people??

He's a ginger lol.

[MTK]

I see a lot of whining on social media about the DC media being too mean to Wentz. Seems like some fans think it's not fair to criticize Wentz for his accuracy issues, which is a compltely legit knock on his game, his tendency to miss the easy layups at times. Wait until we're a few games in and see what people think.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

I see a lot of whining on social media about the DC media being too mean to Wentz. Seems like some fans think it's not fair to criticize Wentz for his accuracy issues, which is a compltely legit knock on his game, his tendency to miss the easy layups at times. Wait until we're a few games in and see what people think.

If he still can't constantly hit the checkdowns, it's definitely going to be a problem. In the NFL, those need to practically be guaranteed.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If he still can't constantly hit the checkdowns, it's definitely going to be a problem. In the NFL, those need to practically be guaranteed.

Agreed.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I see a lot of whining on social media about the DC media being too mean to Wentz. Seems like some fans think it's not fair to criticize Wentz for his accuracy issues, which is a compltely legit knock on his game, his tendency to miss the easy layups at times. Wait until we're a few games in and see what people think.

I agree with that, lets hope he fixes it asap

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I agree with that, lets hope he fixes it asap

He's going into year 7, at this point he is who he is.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

He's going into year 7, at this point he is who he is.

Touché