2012 Free Agency Wish List

[mooby]

I don't think Eddie Royal will make a Hester like impact on our team next year but I would bring him in if Shanny felt he could restore him to his better days. Plus he's still young and he has familiarity with Shanny. I put a big emphasis on free agents' familiarity with coaches trying to sign them. You have to know what type of player they are, and Shanny has that comfort level with ER.

[30gut]

I wouldn't address WR through FA with a big name signing, I don't think its that big of a need.
However I like the idea of bringing in Royal because of his previous production under Mike Shanahan, his familiarity with the scheme.

I would address Safety but would aim at the draft and seek a long term solution to one of the safety spots.
If we did address Safety through FA hopefully the target will be a young safety with the potential to prove himself as a starter.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I wouldn't address WR through FA with a big name signing, I don't think its that big of a need.
However I like the idea of bringing in Royal because of his previous production under Mike Shanahan, his familiarity with the scheme.

I would address Safety but would aim at the draft and seek a long term solution to one of the safety spots.
If we did address Safety through FA hopefully the target will be a young safety with the potential to prove himself as a starter.

This baffles me.. So a 32 year old Moss coming off of his worst season, a 31 year old Gaffney coming off his best season (and not likely to improve on it), Armstrong whose production was non existent, Stallworth who was released mid-season, Paul who was targeted a total of 5 times in 16 games and Hankerson who couldn't get on the active roster until Week 9 and then was lost to a season ending injury doesn't represent 'that big of a need'?

I think Hankerson will be fine and a starter.. Paul is likely more a ST player than a legitimate WR prospect.. Other than that, where's the optimism coming from about our current WR group? Outside of QB, this is our worst offensive unit and needs the most attention.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

This baffles me.. So a 32 year old Moss coming off of his worst season, a 31 year old Gaffney coming off his best season (and not likely to improve on it), Armstrong whose production was non existent, Stallworth who was released mid-season, Paul who was targeted a total of 5 times in 16 games and Hankerson who couldn't get on the active roster until Week 9 and then was lost to a season ending injury doesn't represent 'that big of a need'?

I think Hankerson will be fine and a starter.. Paul is likely more a ST player than a legitimate WR prospect.. Other than that, where's the optimism coming from about our current WR group? Outside of QB, this is our worst offensive unit and needs the most attention.

Was Paul even given a legit chance? Look around in our own division. Cruz was given a chance to play and look what he's become. Same with Miles Austin. What about Larant (sp) Robinson? If we can upgrade the QB position then I see no real need to get Bowe or Colston. Guys were getting open in our offense. We need to upgrade the Qb and o-line before wr.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

This baffles me....So...doesn't represent 'that big of a need'?

Yes, WR doesn't represent that big of need to warrant a big name FA signing.

I think Hankerson will be fine and a starter.. Paul is likely more a ST player than a legitimate WR prospect.. Other than that, where's the optimism coming from about our current WR group? Outside of QB, this is our worst offensive unit and needs the most attention.

I have no idea what Hankerson will become.
I agree that he's shown potential and he could become something greater then he was last year.
But I don't base my optimism about the WR corps on him.

I the think decline in the production of both Moss and Armstrong was directly linked to both injury and near league worst QB play.
And I don't think poor QB play is a reason to replace the WRs.
Imo Moss and Armstrong are still every bit as talented as they were in 2010 where Moss was top 10 in catches and in yards and Armstrong was a viable deep threat with near league best ypc of 19.8 ypc behind only Mike Wallace.
Would I like a big name WR? Would a big name WR help the passing game?
Yes and yes, but is a big name FA WR a need? No not imo.

As far as the worst units on offense after QB its OL in my book.
If you look at the passing game even despite the injuries and poor QB play the passing game was ranked 14th in the NFL. (down from 8th in 2010 w/ McNabb a QB that didn't even get along with the OC)

However the OL gave up 42 sacks which is 22th only 4 down from 2010.
Imo clearly, the OL is the biggest weakness after QB specifically RT and I wouldn't look to solve the RT/OL via a big name FA either.

[IrMitchell]

I don't think it makes sense to let Landry walk, and then sign a safety. Franchise him, and if he isn't healthy Gomes can play.

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

I don't think it makes sense to let Landry walk, and then sign a safety. Franchise him, and if he isn't healthy Gomes can play.

What about signing the safety out of Oakland?

[mredskins]

IMO Landry seems to be taking the Los way of trying to get out of Washington, I be surprised if he is back. Other then the first half of 2010 he has been a major disappointment and not to mention he seems like all around D-Bag.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

IMO Landry seems to be taking the Los way of trying to get out of Washington, I be surprised if he is back. Other then the first half of 2010 he has been a major disappointment and not to mention he seems like all around D-Bag.

At least Rogers was healthy (if I remember correctly). Honestly, the Redskins are pretty much in a position to do whatever the hell they want with Landry. And I don't see many options for him with that huge question mark on his health.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

At least Rogers was healthy (if I remember correctly). Honestly, the Redskins are pretty much in a position to do whatever the hell they want with Landry. And I don't see many options for him with that huge question mark on his health.

Excellent point! F him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

At least Rogers was healthy (if I remember correctly). Honestly, the Redskins are pretty much in a position to do whatever the hell they want with Landry. And I don't see many options for him with that huge question mark on his health.

Here's the thing with Landry: he was one of the most tradeable commodities on the team back in 2010, though it seemed like he was kept because Haslett felt like he could be the cornerstone of what he wanted to do with defense. Right now, Landry is damaged goods and we have to assume (despite Landry's assertions to the contrary) that this is no fault of the Redskins.

But to have your most valuable, tradeable player in 2010 become a player who walks elsewhere to become someone elses reclamation project in 2012? Just two years later? If things are really different with this front office, they will find a way (via a franchise tag or a two year contract offer) to keep Landry from hitting the market right? Because I know what Vinny would do in this situation: he'd let Landry sign elsewhere and then leak details of his attempted rehabilitation to selected media sources. I'm sure Shanahan is above that though.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Here's the thing with Landry: he was one of the most tradeable commodities on the team back in 2010, though it seemed like he was kept because Haslett felt like he could be the cornerstone of what he wanted to do with defense. Right now, Landry is damaged goods and we have to assume (despite Landry's assertions to the contrary) that this is no fault of the Redskins.

But to have your most valuable, tradeable player in 2010 become a player who walks elsewhere to become someone elses reclamation project in 2012? Just two years later? If things are really different with this front office, they will find a way (via a franchise tag or a two year contract offer) to keep Landry from hitting the market right? Because I know what Vinny would do in this situation: he'd let Landry sign elsewhere and then leak details of his attempted rehabilitation to selected media sources. I'm sure Shanahan is above that though.

Don't you think it's time to turn the page with LL? He's had a half of one good season. The guy can't stay healthy and even when he is I certainly don't put him up there with the top safties.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Don't you think it's time to turn the page with LL? He's had a half of one good season. The guy can't stay healthy and even when he is I certainly don't put him up there with the top safties.

It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.

[Alvin Walton]

Disengage.
Turn the page.
Race down a river from the past.

[biffle]

Ben Grubbs
Brandon Carr (dump Hall)
Dashon Goldson (let Landry walk)
Mario Manningham
Ryan Harris
Chad Henne (let Grossman walk)